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ParticipantDisagree. This seems like unfair blame on the writers. Saying that they needed to make Rumple worse just so they could make Hook palatable, seems like you are just picking on the Hook character. I don’t think these two are mutually exclusive. Not everything revolves around CS.
I actually agree with POM. It seemed like that was what 4A was about making Rump the bad guy and making Hook the good guy.
Hook: “I’ve changed. You haven’t” 20 minutes later *stabs Rump in the heart and assaults Will, while under the impression his hand is cursed*
I don’t think the writers have been doing much to show us Hook has changed ways at all, but are primarily telling us that he changed. The Dark One arc, the cursed hand thing, his actions back in the EF, I mean, I don’t see much that says Hook is really a changed man outside of Emma’s field of view. Take her out of the equation and Hook goes back to being Hook.
It seems i’m in the minority here, but while I do agree that power and immortality are a hard thing to let go of, I disagree that it was always a a part of Rump’s character to be power hungry for the sake of it.
I don’t think Rump initially took on the Dark One role because he wanted personal power. I don’t think Rump ever had that drive in him for a lust for power UNTIL he became the dark one. His motivations were only for his son. And if Bae was not in danger of being enlisted to the ogre wars, I don’t think he’d have chosen to become the dark one. And about Rump being a coward, if the Seer had never told Rump he had a son on the way, would he have abandoned the war just out of fear? Is it because Rumpel is a coward that he chose to break his own leg or r is it because he doesn’t want his son to grow up fatherless like he did? Or did he just want the power that he never had?
I don’t know where I was going with this anymore…. Lost my train of thoughts.
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ParticipantI wasn’t sure, but indeed the munchkins of OUAT look exactly how they were portrayed in book. I kept wondering about the funny hats

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Participantthere much better franchises IMO (Lord of the Rings).
I saw LOTR….Didn’t like it 😛 the only one i actually liked was the hobbit. The others were decent, but lord knows i had no idea what was going on in the movie
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ParticipantI haven’t seen any of the star wars films *ducks for cover* Yeah, idk where I’ve been, it seems like one of the classics that everyone should have seen by now. O hear Disney is making three more.
Seems a bit excessive to me. I think the new one should have capped off the series and left it at that.
I think Disney should be focusing on going down the road they started with the Oz movies. It had potential, but i guess there is more of an audience for star wars.
And I just wanted to post something :3"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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Participant*walks into forum* …….*looks around here*…..
Well…..hi everyone. Every doing well? Seems a little tense in here… I’ll uh…I’ll just leave you guys to it then…

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ParticipantShe must be talking about Gaston. She’s surprised to see him.
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ParticipantMaybe Zelena takes the baby with her to the underworld. Permanently.

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ParticipantMaybe Once is going to get edgy. Who is the good guy? Well who else could it be except:

I mean…..it could happen 😛
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Participantwow I wonder who It could be *eye roll*
I do so hope James flirts with Snow. How awkward would that be. OH GOD!
What if they do a twin switches places plot. Like James pretends to be David so that he can hitch a ride out of the underworld.
Guys. This is going to happen. I put all the cookies on it happening.
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ParticipantSince WL already stole “Happily Ever After”, I’m going with “The End”. Assuming its the last season >>
But of course, I’ll go with something else I guess. “The Savior”. Have we had that title? I mean it makes sense. They have all “Descended into hell”…. Emma is our hero..she must save everyone…Jesus….Yeah, you see where I’m going. Maybe we will have some Christian parallels.
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