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How did the dagger break off?
It was cleaved.
[adrotate group="5"]"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNah, Morgana, the original dark one and Nimue all seem too important to be villains in the second episode. This seems like filler/just a villain of the week and not an actual important thing. I am still going with siren. Im betting all my cookies on a siren conjured up by Regina.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICA quick bit of speculation. Looks like the sword incinerates the unworthy — is this a feature of the sword itself, or of the enchantment placed on it by, presumably, Merlin, when he stuck it in the stone? Seems a little harsh, but hey, right of succession and all
I don’t think it’s harsh. From what I think, I think the sword and the dagger as one were supposed to be able to control the darkness and defeat it. But of course darkness and power are tempting to many. So with the sword in the stone, anyone who tried to take the sword and use it’s power for evil would instantly die and the only person who would have that massive power would be the person who didn’t want use it for evil.
Basically, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone.
With the sword killing all the unworthy folk who tried to use it’s power for evil, you’d have had no Dark Ones running around and causing trouble. Obviously this isn’t the case because the dagger is missing but still.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICThey might not be crushing dreams. RumBelle had TLK in season one… And he’s been the dark one for 3 seasons after that. For all we know, and might even see, Hook tried TLK on Emma while in Camelot and it just didn’t full do its work because she stopped it, just as Rump did.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI think he probably should have tried that in the EF. But then again he probably did and can’t remember. Also, yay Violet’s first appearance.
Isn’t violets father Sir Kay? Isn’t he dead? Also it sounds like the crucial asset is the dagger. Sounds like someone is trying to take it and I bet its Arthur.
I dont trust that guy."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICWell Zelena’s baby has to have some importance other than just popping out and causing minor relationship struggles for OutlawQueen.
Right?
Surely A&E are planning to do something with the wee one. I think Zelena giving it dark magic could be a thing. Or perhaps it’s just naturally born with magic and that causes trouble. Or perhaps Zelena pulls a cora and tries to force it to be a certain way… Hmmm. Idk. I just cannot accept that this babe is just here for….nothing.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICso they aren’t going to have our gang kill a baby and to have a baby be the Big Bad (a newborn, really) would be….a level of stupid that this show has not yet reached.
Well…if its the last season…anything could happen. Plus, I find the idea of evil baby absolutely awesome but then again, i’m just weird. And perhaps they wouldn’t have to actually….kill it. Just take away it’s powers.
Snowing has a child that may or may not have it’s own TL magic. Maybe it’s pure untainted goodness will counteract the concentrated tainted darkness within the child. The boom, problem solved.
#EvilBabyGreanBean
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICThat’s actually a great idea, Nevermore. We saw last season it is possible to transfer darkness into a “pure vessel” as was done with unborn emma and Lily. Perhaps that will be there solution, take the darkness out of Emma and put it in Zelena’s baby. Should….should I make a thread?
Also, I meant to mention this and might as well now: Something I noticed and really liked was that Zelena seemed…somewhat noble, didn’t she? In some way? She was kind of mama-bearish this episode. Granted I only saw the ep once but didn’t Zelena basically say she planned on going back to Oz to raise her kid alone and not be bothered by the heroes anymore. I mean…that’s….kind of…good in an “evil” sort of way. I mean I think we were all expecting Zelena to be using this baby to actively screw up her sisters life but she basically said “Forget this crap, I’m outta here” and I think…that would have been okay, provided Robin and Regina and Roland all have visitation rights and she actually cares for the child (which I really believe Zelena does now). Hmmm. I am really looking forward to this arc.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC-Emma starting off the pit of gloop. Rumple didn’t start off this way, so why should she?
Rump and Emma got turned into the DO in different ways. Rump got the darkness directly injected into him via killing the previous dark one. Emma was consumed and carried off by it to the vault. I presume this is how the first dark one was also made, by merlin attaching it to someone and that person being carried off and released through the vault.
WHY DID EMMA TURN EVIL AT ALL?
I think Evil is a choice. And I think Emma herself made that choice. I could be wrong, but we will have to wait and see.
I don’t understand why Emma couldn’t have asked for help catching another wisp. Was there a reason I didn’t catch?
The wisps may not be very common and probably extremely hard to find. I asked myself the same question and just came to that conclusion. If they were easy then a lot of the shows problems could have been fixed seasons ago. But I assume when Emma let Merida go, she was going to just try and find another one.
Last time the crew ended up back in EF, they landed in their full costume, long hair and all. It didn’t happen this time, nor did it happen to Emma and Hook when they fell through the portal. Is the something about the curse that does that to them, returning to their original state? Part of the ”undoing?”
The last time it was because of the curse. It’s like when regina casted the first dark curse, everyone didn’t appear in this world wearing FTL clothing. They wore what was normal. When regina casted it the second time to get them back to the EF, they appeared in FTL clothing, what was normal for the FTL. When Emma and Hook went to the EF, they didn’t go via curse. They time traveled. When the crew took the tornado, it was not a curse, it was just transportation from one place to another again, so they stayed the same. When Emma brought them back, it wasn’t a curse, just transportation so they wore what they were wearing when she did whatever she did. I think the only curse part of it was the memeory thing.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI agree too. I was…slightly skeptical about if JMO could play the bad guy, but from what we’ve seen she’s nailing it. Can’t wait to see more. I wonder if we will have a flashback to when rumps was first the dark one. Did he see Zoso?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC
