[TheWatcher]

I agree with Crystal Princess…. Although if Idina Menzel is up for it, then she would totally nail the plot so hard we’d need a hammer to revive it 😛

[TheWatcher]

Oh Watcher, why did you have to being up this can of worms? It’s only going to cause more emotional damage and never ending arguments on this forum and on a day in which we all should be excited & enjoy our beloved show’s season finale.

No need for arguments, I only asked to get other opinions about whether or not they liked where his character was going as the show has progressed. I didn’t mean to step on toes, just stating my view on the matter. What else is a character discussion for? :)I know some times things can get a bit heated here over certain subjects and certain ships and certain characters but I don’t think that means that discussing the character should be off limits. This is all in good fun, guys. We are all Oncers here 🙂
That being said, HooksGirl, you present an interesting point…well points. I too hope that in to nights finale, we get to see Hook be that clever witty guy he is…. And not just a background singer. In that aspect I look forward to the episode even if I’m not excited for the episode in general (the whole time travel thing just isn’t as captivating as I thought it would be for some reason. I’ve never been a fan of time travel related things). So yes, tonight I hope Hook is a LOT more than what he has been in the last fee EPs of S3. At the end of the day, my point is I want Hook to be a hero. I want him to fight for Emma and for the side of goodness and clearly he is doing that. I just don’t want him to fade into the background. I can see that others disagree with me, about him being a woobie, a puppy, or a background person now, and I respect that, we all see things differently, we all have our opinions. Thats just mine *holds up hands and backs away*

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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[TheWatcher]

Its possible that Mount Olympus is the next destination. I could see Shatner as Zeus 😛

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

did he backslide last ep by ‘killing’ the WW? Yes, indeed

I see his backslide as being the fact that he lied to Belle after he gave her his little phony boloney speech about trust while proposing. As for killing Zelena, I see nothing wrong with it and think its debateable whether or not Bae would have seen anything wrong with it. If the witch killed Henry, both Bae and Emma and Regina would be ready to rip her throat out and feed it to her and no one would bat an eye. But thats a topic for a different thread 😛 anyway,Cinders sums it up in better words than me. Just because he us in love doesn’t mean he has to become uninteresting. He’s just been a background sailor making his :/ face every episode when he used to be a presence of a pirate. And besides, if Emma decides she wants a relationship, she doesn’t need a punching bag. Hook needs to step his game up. No puppies needed, he needs to be a pitbull. He can be in love and not be a puppy.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Here was my little rant about Hooks character development in another thread:

I would like to first say that this has NOTHING to do with anything shipping related. Beyond his feelings for Emma that is. Let’s begin

When Hook first appeared on the show, I enjoyed him. He was this fearsome pirate, sexy, funny, flirtatious, etc. He was just a great anti villain! To me, he straddled the line between good and evil, not really caring about either if they didn’t suit his needs and he was just an enjoyable character.

Now? He’s gone soft. Ever since Hook has fallen for Emma it seems he’s become all… Fluffy. He’s not the pirate he used to be. There was a time when every episode hook appeared in, he had that sexy scowl….those little sexual innuendos…. That fearsomeness. Now pouts and whines quite often and I hate it. Like dude…. BE A PIRATE! I understand he is trying to change to show Emma he can be good and be a hero and all that jazz but I hate the way his character has become. Season 2 Hook beats Season 3 with an iron fist (well iron hook :P) and I’m just getting tired of it.

Rump didn’t become soft when he lost Bae. He became stronger. Same thing with Regina. And now that Regina has RH is she soft? No, she fought even harder. This is my point exactly. Hook hasn’t become more than he was, to me at least he has lessened. He’s not as interesting, he’s not as…..unique a character anymore. He’s become this sad puppy dog. I don’t mean to say he is bland, he still has his moments. This isn’t about him not deserving love, he can love the whole planet and everyone in it for all I care. This is about how much of a woobie he is now. I love strong characters. If I were writing the show the dynamic between Hook and Emma would be loads different. Hook is….trying way to hard for her and losing himself in the process. Love can make you a new person, I get it, but it doesn’t have to make you woobie. I guess it’s just me though >> a lot of people love Hook and I do too, I just want to see him BE Hook and not… This guy. Lately I’ve just been like “Hook….*rolls eyes* Could you possibly get your (bleep) together?” Idk. I just feel Hook doesn’t have much going for himself other than Emma and I just don’t like it.  He needs to be more of a pirate. I don’t mean an evil swashbuckler. I just mean he needs to man up.

Does anyone else agree? Disagree? Comments?

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Hmmm… I’ve been wondering…. Is this death match still on >> *silently plants land mines*

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

I would be slightly upset and happy if it were Arendelle. Happy be cause FROZEN 😀 upset because they skipped over a few other Disney films for the most recent one which is doing quite well. I’d tell Elsa and Anna they’ll have to wait their turn after Tiana, Merida, Aladdin and Jasmine, and Cruella De Vil 😛 but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were them. I think Arendelle should be a kingdom in the enchanted forest anyway.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

We’ll I remember one that was from the later version of the show. It had Jessica Simpson as a baby sitter to this girl who had a lot of dolls. The dolls were alive apparently and start to attack the baby sitter…. Only for her to find out the dolls weren’t trying to hurt her. They were trying to WARN her. The girl apparently would turn all her sitters into dolls. Hence why she had so many. Plot twist indeed.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

I like the idea of Narnia…. I believe in the books the White Witch came to our world and caused a lot of havoc didn’t she? Before she arrived in Narnia? When Goat was saying about how magic has leaked over and caused problems in our world before! that was what I always thought they were talking about. But indeed. I doubt we will go to Narnia though. With the rights being so tight and all.

question: would we be able to use a Narnian character even if they don’t use the land of Narnia? Like how avengers 2 is using characters from X-Men even though they don’t have the rights?

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

My theory is we are going to Fictional London. I say this because as I was reading the pilot script, I see it says that as the curse envelopes Snow and Charming, Snow sees glimpses of other worlds, one of which containing the alien tripods from HG Wells War of The Worlds. If the story takes place in London, and Alice lives in a fictional London, and Will is set to appear next season, I could see it happening. It would be the whole Science vs Magic arc we’ve been waiting for 😛

Or Camelot. Though I really don’t want it to be Camelot…. Not a fan as far as I’m aware 😛

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

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