[TheWatcher]

Vidia maybe? She wasn’t an evil fairy in the films but she sort of a B word to Tink >> she was a wind fairy and the only fairy I can think of in the Disney series who wore black-ish type clothes

[TheWatcher]

Hmmmm I am really perplexed by it >_< I will go with wicked witch for now. I thought it was Pan but guess not :/ she could have wanted him to believe for her own motives

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[TheWatcher]

TheWatcher wrote: Hmm. I never thought of him hiving his father TLK… That makes sense. Its almost poetic. Maybe the kiss would have saved him… Like how he was stabbed with the dagger in the BatB movie and Belle kissed him back… Hmmm…

For it to be TLK it has to be TL both ways. Malcolm said MANY TIMES during this episode that he never loved Rumple. Not once. At all.

That doesn’t mean Rumpel didn’t truly love his father even after all that has happened. I think TLK would work even if the other person doesn’t even like you. Because your love for that person is true >> I could be wrong though. Some people in the world would sacrifice their life for people who dont share the same feelings for them as they do. Thats still true love to me. Idk >_< I just like the theory of it 😛

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[TheWatcher]

I think that Rumples killed them with the Dagger but who kill the DO with the Dagger is the next DO. If it was so easy to get rid of the curse Zoso would have killed himslef, but he couldn’t so Rumple is alive. I think the paradox and the act of love he did for sacrafiing him and give his dad a TL Kiss is what let him survive, but kill the DO curse. I think he is in the scroll. The next who cast the curse save Rumple, who is captured like in the Pandora Box. I think with this sacrfice he also make clear which way you can break the next curse, with a loving father and a son. So my guess is on robi and Roland. They will get their memories back fast, but who is the villian and why did the curse was cast is now the Question. LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED RUMPLESTILTSKIN (Villians like you deserve their Happy Endings)

Hmm. I never thought of him hiving his father TLK… That makes sense. Its almost poetic. Maybe the kiss would have saved him… Like how he was stabbed with the dagger in the BatB movie and Belle kissed him back… Hmmm…

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[TheWatcher]

No body = no death. He’s alive. (I am clinging to this until March) But I think Rumple went someplace we’ve never seen before. Like the netherworld. Not the Red Room which seems to be more like a dreamscape but an actual limbo (without any sort of religious overtones). I think when the WWW sends them all back to SB, Rumple will get dragged along because of his connection to the town

I agree. I think the Red Room is apart of its own world actually. That there are more rooms with different purposes and such. Who knows who lives there or created it or what >> Seeing as the Witch was green because of an apple (in the disney version) and the grimmerie contains a spell on how to make a very dangerous apple (in the wicked novel series) I wonder if the witch created the apple in order to send her victims to a place of torment… But this isn’t the place for this theory 😛

Rumpel wasn’t there when Regina casted the new curse… So I wonder if that shall be important indeed…

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[TheWatcher]

Even tho we got a LOT of spoilers early on, I was pleasantly surprised by this whole episode! I can barely contain my self for three more months :/ theories:

I don’t think Rump is dead. But IF he is, then there is no way we can ever see him again because they established in every season that dead is dead. HOWEVER , if Rump is alive then we have to accept the possibility that Pan is also alive. Just throwing that out there

Everyone in FTL had their memories. Its just Emma and Henry who dont. As for Hook, its been a year. I’m sure in FTL they were going threw some harsh evil dealing with the wicked witch and so he has found a way to escape and get back. Maybe his boat was enchanted with a flying spell by Regina. Maybe he flew on the witches broom. Maybe he is wearing the ruby slippers 😛 personally ivdont think Emma loves or will ever love Hook. But who knows. Can’t wait to see how this all plays out. I’m guessing next half we get Present Day New York, present day FTL, past FTL, and past Oz.

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[TheWatcher]

Hmmmm I do believe Regina shall be reunited with Henry, who wont know who she is and won’t care which will break her heart. I don’t think RH is going to take henrys place in her heart. No woman should allow a man to take the place of her CHILD in their heart and if that’s the direction they take it in I shall be highly upset and everyone will never hear the end of it

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[TheWatcher]

The curse brings everything back. So I think that The Witch really is living in the palace and now she decided to raid Regina ‘s closet because the curse has basically filled up the closet 😛 >> I notice she is wearing her own outfit in this but Reginas clothes in the pics

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[TheWatcher]

Hmm well we never really got closure on why Cinderella’s fairy godmother “won’t be missed” or whatever it was that Rumple said about her after he took her wand from her. Maybe she and this Black Fairy are somehow connected. It’s a different wand, but maybe there’s a league of not-so-nice fairies wandering around making trouble for everyone.

…..Assuming you aren’t saying that due to the term “Black” Fairy and the godmothers race, I think that while ita possible, its unlikely. That fairy was working for king Georges family for awhile according to Rumpel. I think if she knew anything Blue would have gotten rid of her. Or rump would have interrogated her, not kill her on the spot. I think rump just wanted her wand for the Cinderella deal.

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[TheWatcher]

TheWatcher wrote: . I love wicked… But I just hope they really aren’t using the Wicked version of the witch. But this article is really confusing since they used the Elphie name a few times

Of course it’s an adaption. They’ll probably take influence from different interpretations of the WWW. Also the book version couldn’t actually do all that much magic. The musical one was more powerful.

I guess its up for debate. I would say the Grimmerie is a lot more powerful in the novel than it is in the musical. From what we can see in the novel, that spell book is VERY dangerous and holds a lot of bad things (including a POSIONED APPLE!!!!!!) Elphbaba herself may not have used that much magic, but give that book to The Wizard and he would have done serious damage (hence why she kept it from him at all costs. He could actually use it and use it right). In the musical, this wasn’t the case. The book is a lot friendlier >> So I would say if someone has the power, and they know what they are doing, give them the book of spells from the novel and not the musical and they become a worthy competitor for Rump or Regina. Its not so much about the witch herself, but her knowledge of magic. And Elphaba from the musical just isn’t quite there yet.

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