[TheWatcher]

I think Felix is important, but not father important. I would say Brother perhaps, but not father. Rumpel does seem to know him tho… Based on the scene in the first episode when Felix hands him the doll. But who knows. Felix and Pan could just be really good friends…. Maybe more.

[TheWatcher]

PriceofMagic wrote: Wasn’t the 310 death supposed to be someone on the list? Felix wasn’t on the list but Tinkerbell was. I could see Pan wanting revenge on Tink after she betrayed him since she was supposed to be one of the people he trusted the most.

Yeah there seems to be 2 deaths: one in 310 that apparently gets a funeral and then 311 which we all know is MalcolmPan

Hmmm. Is that based on the pics of Rumpel shanking him?

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[TheWatcher]

TheWatcher wrote: We are forgetting the whole Dark One theory about the witch. Remember people thought she was a dark one at one point. If she was, then she WOULD have been green and that wouldn’t give MGM ant problems because dark ibes have greenish skin in OUAT. That is what I’m going with. MAYBE she is the only Dark One to have survived passing the curse on to another. And now she wants the curse back…. So she is in SB to go after Rumpel and curses everyone back to the EF to get them out if her way. She is a wicked witch indeed

The Witch character is supposed to have history with Regina, not Rumple.

Doesn’t mean she couldn’t have been a Dark One. She may not be after Rumpelstiltskin but why would she just curse them all to EF and leave him behind? I wonder where he is. This is all assumption of course. WHAT IF the pendant is her version of the dagger? It fits with the Disney Oz movie, the necklace giving her power

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[TheWatcher]

We are forgetting the whole Dark One theory about the witch. Remember people thought she was a dark one at one point. If she was, then she WOULD have been green and that wouldn’t give MGM ant problems because dark ones have greenish skin in OUAT. That is what I’m going with. MAYBE she is the only Dark One to have survived passing the curse on to another. And now she wants the curse back…. So she is in SB to go after Rumpel and curses everyone back to the EF to get them out if her way. She is a wicked witch indeed

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[TheWatcher]

Well lets consider this… If she so Cruella,maybe her curse was to be unfashionable. No furs, no style. She walks around dressed as a frigid woman from the 1930’s. Cruella would hate that… But then again, I’m prepared to ser Cruella in Fictional London rather than the enchanted forest. I doubt the curse pulled her from there

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[TheWatcher]

Okay, let me readjust my theory >_< I was thinking she would be the east witch because of the necklace... But.. I'm gonna go with West Wicked Witch.. I think Eva, Snows mother, is the East witch and sister to this woman. I say this because of the obvious reference to "slippers" said by Eva in the Millers Daughter and plus the fact that on her death bed she wore a pair of bright Red sparkling shoes. Around this time, jefferson had gone to Oz looking for the shoes for Rumpel, but couldn't find them because they had passed to another land. Not our land. The enchanted forest.

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[TheWatcher]

Hold on a minute 😮 Rumpels ring!!! Remember that the ring Rumpel wears some times changed color?? In Oz The Great and whatever, Theodoras ruby ring glowed red whenever she used magic. This ring is what people believe is what she used to fashion the ruby slippers for her sister after the pendant was broken… Wonder if Rumpels ring has anything to do with this.

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[TheWatcher]

I agree. I’m betting the fathers name is Jesse to go along with the biblical aspect of it all.

As for the woman, I think it will be nice if she is Rumps mother. That way, her and Pan reunite in awful villainous duo for revenge 🙂

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[TheWatcher]

I hope we get to learn the difference between Magjc and Witchcraft. We know magic is stronger while witchcraft is feeble, so I think that using witchraft requires a lot more out of you then magic and may even have a bigger price. thats why bad witches are ugly. The dark witchcraft takes a toll on them physically to the point where Evanora needed an amulet to hide her ugliness and such

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[TheWatcher]

Also, for those who haven’t seen Oz the Great and Powerful, that necklace wasn’t just a fashion accesory. She drew her power from just as Glinda drew it from her wand and Theodora from her ruby ring. *SPOILER ALERT* When Glinda snatches the necklace off, it breaks the spell that hid the way she really looked. She was so wicked that she was an old ugly yellow hag, while her sister was a green (and much more attractive) green witch >> so if they saw her in some sort of costume and she is the witch of the east, I’m sure they saw her like that. Yellow, and haggy

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