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ParticipantThat said, apparently there are some who would rather a reboot of the show with CS as the main characters. How do we all feel about that?
If you had asked me a year ago, i’d probably have said that would be a thing as opposed to a show with Henry and his daughter… Like, I feel like that is exactly something they would have done, not just with CS, but with any couple
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ParticipantWhat if the curse turned Emma into a swan? Ala Swan Princess and it’s not discovered till much later that Emma is a swan.
Despite being very obvious, this is actually pretty funny just because I would DIE to see Hook actually have to kiss a swan to get it to turn back into Emma. It’d be cool if they also had flashbacks of princess and the frog to parallel it all with.
Another theory is Emma is in a coma ala Charming. But they keep her in a coma for a while and I remember reading that with Charming they were gonna keep him in a coma for at least till the first half wrapped so I think they could do that with Emma. Have them go in her hospital room in the mid season finale and find it empty ala Emma is awake and now the hunt for the awakened Emma begins.
But this season/reboot of the show isn’t about Emma anymore or Hook finding Emma. We are on something entirely different.
This is now HENRY’S story. About Henry’s family. I don’t think anything should be wrong with Emma, personally. Not dead, not in coma, not missing. I think the biggest issue in terms of Captain Swan simply needs to be the fact that they are indeed separated because of some new curse. And so in order for that to not be so, Hook has to team up with Henry and what ever cast of characters to find out who the new villain is so they can defeat them.
Hook can still want to find Emma and all that, but the main focus should be handling the reason as to why they aren’t together. Hook needs to want to whoop some serious dark patooty! This shouldn’t be finding Emma, it should finding Henry’s wife, daughter, whomever.
And on top of that just look at 2×06, the writing in that episode is completely clear. Neal was the past, and Hook was the future.
Just because you are interpreting things that way doesn’t mean that for everyone else. I also disagree with this, seeing as Emma admits she loved neal and would never stop. Had he not died, I don’t think she’d have just pushed him to back and Hook to the front. But that’s personal interpretation.
CS was obviously the plan from the beginning, the fact that they wrote their stories as being kindred spirits and being able to connect and understand each other when nobody else could was another clear indication
I think Emma has a few people on this show who she connected with and understands like no one else. Lily. Neal. Hook. Elsa. Being Kindred doesn’t mean automatically in love. I will never say that Emma and Hook didn’t mesh (that’s why I wanted him to stick around for awhile in season 2. They worked well together and I saw him as the deputy to her sheriff so to speak).
I believe Neal’s death would have actually stuck and he wouldn’t have survived.
The only way for Captain Swan to be together is for Neal to have died? I don’t think that’s how it should be, but not only do I agree with you, I think JMO does too. So long as Neal was alive, I don’t think Emma and Hook could have been together. I personally do believe that’s why killed him off. Not because his character was unpopular. Not because it was always the plan. But because when they decided to go with Hook/Emma, they had to cut the only person who actually would have needed up with her. I believe it was POM who said that CS (I’m paraphrasing) basically doesn’t work because it wasn’t like Emma actually had to chose. Neal just died, and Hook “won” her by default in this show’s logic.
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ParticipantYeah, I mean I admit I have yet to see Moana but I don’t think its enough to reign in a large number of people as Frozen would, which sweeped the entire world by snow storm.
Disney characters couldn’t save this show. A musical episode couldn’t save it. Marrying Captain Swan couldn’t save. Seriously, A&E really beter have one heck of a story next year. Hopefully they have learned a valuable lesson
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ParticipantMoana wasn’t even big at the box office, at least not compared to a lot of other Disney films so I don’t bringing her on will significantly increase the ratings like Frozen did at all.
Frozen was huge but did Frozen boost the rating that much when they showed up on the show? I don’t recall
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Participantoooh yeah, I know its not confirmed but I definitely think THIS is the final stretch for OUAT so they better pull out all the stops (hopefully in a sensible way). I don’t think we are getting season 8.
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ParticipantI just got interrupted from watching the beginning but something I noticed was that when Henry woke Lucy up he didn’t say “it found us” or “he/she found us”. He said “they found us”.
So the darkness is a they, or a force/minion/agent of some group, not just one individual. Interesting……
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ParticipantI agree it’s something that’s becoming the shape of a person. This seems fairly personal for Henry and I’m starting to wonder if it’s Lucy’s mother. After all, where is *she* during all this–especially if this is a flashforward as some think
But the thing is in the next scene doesn’t Tiger Lily say she’s going to take Lucy to her mother or something like that?
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ParticipantYeah they really could have made at least some effort to get the details right. Putting Gid in a cloak or having emma wear the same thing as in the vision.
I know they said the future is never certain and things change but still. They could have done something very similar to it
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Participantdid any of the other doors even stand out as being identifiable as other stories? Just seems like it was the one tiki door and the oz door
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Participantmhmmm. Suuuuurrreee, A&E. Sure.
I doubt Moana will end up being Lucy’s mom, but I fully believe we will see her on this show
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