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ParticipantBut now you’re saying that there are various levels of evil. Who decides that? Why do the people of the Winkie country have to suffer an injustice like being ruled over? Again, moral rights.
Then is the Wizard evil for ruling the people of Oz? Being ruled over isn’t an injustice. She enslaved the Winkies is a more accurate way of saying it, okay, but the whole shoe thing is irrelevant to that. Glinda could have offed her years ago had she got out of hand. But instead she let her continue to enslave them. Im saying in the case of the shoes, it is wrong to deny them to her since technically she cant do much more than what she already has since 1.) The shoes obviously cant be that powerful because the previous owner only took over 1/4th of Oz, 2.) Glinda is a very powerful sorceress on God-like level who wouldn’t have allowed it. and 3.)….C’mon…its her sisters shoes!
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ParticipantI’m not even sure Mr. Gold had no sort of legal right to baby Alexandra, even if technically, he had a “magical” right.
His contract had no meaning in OUR land. He is not from here, has no degrees or lawful hold or anything like that to make a legal contract. But in the FTL…. He’s trafficked with kings and queens and all that… I think in the EF, his contract really was legal.
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ParticipantTrue and it was his intention to be locked up but he still had the contract. Rumple has operated baby deals before (James went to George in order to save the Charming farm) Who’s to say Rumple wouldn’t have found some loving parents for Cinderella’s baby.
Or eat It like in the original. But Rumpel wasn’t wrong if he had a legal contract. Who knows what he wanted with it. Maybe if she read the contract she would know. Maybe he planned on giving it away to a couple in exchange for something
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ParticipantWas Rumple within his rights to try and take Cinderella’s baby? It was stated in the contract that Cinderella signed willingly without reading it. Assuming it was the same contract with Cora, the first born trade was specified within the first couple of lines.
If the contract was legal, he was right to take the baby. Not his fault she didn’t read it. Cora had enough sense to read something before signing it.
Does moral imperative trump “rights?” Because in the first case of Ursula, she was infringing on the rights of others: eating them for instance.
Ursula only ate the animals. She talks about eating caviar before it hatched and shellfish. If she is evil for eating animals then are we?
And in the second case, the Wicket Witch wanted to overtake Oz. And with Dorothy, those shoes were hers by right of conquest, more or less. In both instances the “good” guys had a moral imperative to protect the “underlings” from impending evil.
The witch had only taken over the Winkie country. Other than that was she really “that” evil?? Glinda and Tattypoo fought her off before, giving her the shoes wouldn’t give her THAT much power sense the witch of the east wasn’t doing much. If she got out of hand, cast a rain spell. Either way, giving the witch her shoes would be giving a pair shoes to a mourning sister in my opinion. There was no reason to deny her them.
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ParticipantNew theory: Rumpel and Regina are BOTH Ursula. For the past 300 years, rumpel has been changing merfolk into humans in exchange for squid ink. He has stopped for whatever reason and Regina plays on that to impersonate Ursula and get Ariel.. To do whatever it is she is trying to get her to do >> sounded better in my head
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ParticipantRegina gives her a spell or potion. Perhaps She eventually fot rumpel to give it to her
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ParticipantSo Ursula is a myth. Regina is impersonating her. Well I’m slightly dissappointed. Slightly excited still.
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ParticipantEric is there too T.T??? Why can’t the episodes come quicker!!!!!
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ParticipantSo the beautiful witch who teaches Jafar magic: anyone else think they fall in love and then she dies, causing him to turn evil? And now he wants to turn back time and prevent her death and his evilness?
Perhaps he accidentally kills her with magic and now he wants to go back and prevent that
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ParticipantI wish theyd have made her eyes blue :/
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