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And was it ever explained why he didn’t try using the magic tree introduced in Pilot?
I believe Blue Fairy said it was the only magic tree left and Geppetto used it to make the wardrobe. And even then, only two people could use it. Once had been spent on Pinochio, and the other on Emma, and Rump was incarcerated at the time.
But if u mean before all that? I’m going to say because after he had knowledge of the future, he knew the only way he was going to find Bae was through Emma. Perhaps before then he simply didn’t know. He also couldn’t attempt to attack the apprentice or anything since it seems Apprentice may have been more powerful(?).
Honestly, with OUAT u just gotta roll with the flow and not think about the logistics.
[adrotate group="5"]"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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Ya know, heres an idea: Mermaids can travel lands too. Maybe their blood can open portals. Looks like Ariel better watch out.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC2. Emma was angry with Hook, not because of what he did, but because he didn’t tell HER. That is actually kind of selfish on her part because she cares more about her feelings than the fact that Hook had murdered her paternal grandfather.
I disagree. Charming is the one who knew him and had an emotional connection to him. Emma has never seen him, never spoken to him, and the fact she can recognize him in the memory is mind boggling. Charming should be upset Hook murdered him. Emma should be upset Hook would rather hide the truth than be real with her. The murder is bad but keeping the secret is worse. From Emma’s perspective.
3. Hook was using one of Emma’s magical dreamcatchers from her time as the DO. Why does Emma still have them?
I don’t think the dreamcatchers are inherently dark magic and I like to think maybe its a hobby she now has to help her focus (Rumple still spins at the wheel, apparently). I figure the magic of the dream catchers are supposed to capture memories, and that Emma is deliberately making them for that purpose. That’s just what they do.
He knows he should tell her the truth, he’s been told he should tell her the truth, but that doesn’t make doing so any easier. Hook went to the next logical solution, if he couldn’t tell Emma then he’d get rid of the memory all together. It wasn’t right but I can see why he did it.
I 100% do hold it against him. He rationalized lying (or withholding the truth) and made a choice. I understand not wanting to tell her, I understand taking a while to build up the courage, but he moved past all that and was ready to build his new life with her literally on the bones of her grandfather. I hold it against him and Emma should not. Not for the murder, but because he lied.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICHook doesn’t even seem aware that other people have feelings. He talks about how it will make him feel for Snow and Charming to know. He talks about what might happen to him of Emma doesn’t just forgive him. He doesn’t even seem to realize that Charming and Emma have feelings to hurt.
Gotta agree here, Hook seems very selfish, and doesnt seem to really care about others outside of what will effect him. When he does its usually revolving around Emma stuff (if he does something bad, emma will leave him,etc).
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDid baby Neal just get way older?
shouldn’t he be like…1 now? I can never keep track of how much time has passed on this show.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC…..what if Black Fairy used the book to retcon something? We know her and Regina have a magic battle. Now she’s driving reginas car and is dressed similarly to her and Cora. What if everyone sees her Regina through some kind of glamor spell or she rewrote the story to make her the mayor and step mother to Henry.
Im calling it.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI just really wish this was being told from a Charming/Hook perspective with Emma being one of the stakes. Would feel so much better for some reason
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI’ve got pizza and wings, so excuse my rambling, its a slow night for me and a much needed day off is coming so I might get a little repetitive:
but technically he didn’t lie. He withheld information bc he was too afraid to tell her
Naaaahhhhh. Hook was planning on extracting and destroying his memories, thus preventing him from ever coming clean and telling her the truth. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that called a “Lie by omission” or something? He was preparing to never reveal it to her at all had she not walked in.
His reasons for not wanting to do it are understandable. Him being about to not do it is not.
It was a mistake on his part
A mistake is something you do accidently. Hook made a choice and was only stopped by being caught in the act.
But to me, the CS proposal kinda sucked and then how Emma found out about Charming’s dad kinda sucked.
But I don’t think this should be about the way the proposal went down. What does it matter? Its about what is happening between Hook and Emma right now as they are planning to move their relationship to the next level. What good is a proposal when you find out the person you are trying to marry is keeping big secrets from you. That’s not a good way to start a life together. I’m no CS fan but even if it was, screw the proposal, it could have been the most extravagant magical man on one knee proposal ever, once Hook made that choice all that goes out the window. This shouldn’t be a way to lead them to doing a better proposal.
To me, this is setting Hook up for his big moment by re-proposing the right way and owning up to everything in the way he should have originally.
And that’s an issue for me. I feel like all this is nothing but a big runaround, a setup for a big moment for Hook. Which I don’t have a problem with but I feel a much better option would have been for him to tell the truth in the first place!!! THAT would have shown he was a changed man, a noble man, a brave man who was confronting the past and laying himself out bare for Emma knowing that she may leave him and then having her accept his proposal or whatever. This was a yuge missed opportunity.
I get it’s more personal bc it directly affects him now, but how hypocritical will it look if he doesn’t forgive him?
But….okay, don’t throw tomoatoes at me here but….
Does Hook deserve it? Once again….Hook made a choice. One that was only stopped by Emma walking in on him in the act.
Had Hook had it his way, no one was ever going to find out. In the words of a great sorcerer, its not a persons actions that define them, but their choices.
so the short version of all this: I’m mad that Hook chose to hide his secret, I’m mad that this feels like a setup to inevitably sweep it all under the rug, I’m mad that he (and the show?) are placing Emma’s feelings about this above Charmings, I’m mad that people are making this about the CS proposal and not about the state of their relationship in general, I’m mad that we all just know this going to end with Hook doing something good to make up for what he did, I’m mad that A&E once again had an opportunity to show Hook as a good guy and didn’t, but will expect us to see him as such anyway.
And to be fair, it baffles me that this family could ever have dinner together after all the staby-staby
Knowing this family, every thanksgiving dinner is going to end with a new random villain popping in, cursing everyone, and then by Christmas they find out the villain is actually someones old flame/sibling/parent/long lost relative who was abandoned. Every family get together.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICPrince Achmed? The guy who got his butt bit by the Bengal tiger? How random.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC
