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Oh, yeah I did. I can wright again. I missed you all!
I amm so glad that this forum is active again and of course here are the first spoilers. It is so nice that use Rufio. Ok, it could be a that he is only a name holder for PP or somebody else, but still I feel that altough Rufio is from Sony (or whatever) he is not forgotten.
[adrotate group="5"]Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
I kind of like your idea. Would that mean that hooks story were true, but he was the father not the child? trying to make it right with bae.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
Maybe I written it wrong, but Ii didn’t mean a time travel.
Century 1700: Hook was born and get lost, rescued by a fairy. Then his father searched for him, steal the magic beans from the darkOne. Found his son on Neverland, build a Jolly Roger, then runaway cause he was found. Goes to the enchanted forest were he start over and get Rumplestiltskin and has to flee again when he is a boy. Then returned to Neverland, found the way of the DarkOnes undoing, learned magic and searched since then for the boy “Henry”. On the 19th century he convinced Wendy to help him with the home office, that her family would be safe. In Neverland you didn’t grow old so he is still their and wants to get rid off the man who is always the reason why he has to lave his children.
Hook is not talking of Peter because it is a old part of him that was betrayed and he left the boy, who was so naive and get him the new name Killian Jones and start over that no one will ever fool him again. He don’t want that everybody knows him.
Also the leader of the last boys said to Hook: “If you find him, you know to whom he belongs to.” OK he was refering to Bae, but still he maked it clear that if he found any boy should be given to him and in the end he said also. “Peter Pan never fails.”, so it could be that he is reffering to Hook too.
I know it could also be the leader or HIM, but I still hope that PP is not the bad boy.Th really Problem in my idea is that i don’t know hoe the time i work in Neverland. Is it stuck, but if then Neal would be dead by now, cause if it doesn’t go further like the other realms he would be still in the 19th century.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
it could be still Hook that is Peter Pan as a boy. They would need a a boy that look similar to him, but he could be his past. I mean Ausiello said that more information about Peter would be too spoilery, maybe cause of his look that will us remind us awfully lot about someone. (cold blue eyes and black hair, handsome, and a smile – sigh)
My theory about this then would be. Hook was once Peter Pan in Neverland the first lost boy, who was rescued by Tinkerbell. Thy rescued even more and so the first bunch of the lost boy were on the island to make adventures. Once on their journeys the found a broken raft with a man on the beach. The man was a sailor who tried to go away of his old land with a portal (maybe a bean_I think that he had posessed a few, stolen by the first Dark One), but it was a normal raft, so it didn’t quite worked out. The name of the man was Edward England (1720, escape of madagascar). He still from the DarkOne, cause he wanted to find his son, who was taken from the fairies.(History always repeats itself). They take him, cause he fall out from the basket. (Peter Pan story)
In the begining the boys were sceptic, but after the stories Edward told them (without the one of his son), about adventures, foreign countries and “Davy Jones Locker”. Edward try to bond with Peter, cause after the story about Peter, he can recognized the fairy that took away his son, but he didn’t say a word to Peter, cause he was afraid how he would react.After a while they want to join Edward so they build a ship,. They maked it out of enchanted wood that Peter knows, where they grow.And so they build the Jolly Roger, that was named for the flagg of the ship himself, but when the time come to go together on adventures with the Jolly Rogers, something happens and Edward betrayed them and flee in the middle of the night, He was haunted by the first dark one, cause the Dark One would kill anybody to get him, so he left with a bean to the enchanted forest and begin a new life and maybe got a family.
His wife had died by the born of their child and because in the time of the labor, there were a storm outside, which was rumble on the house, because of that the boys name was “Rumplestilstkin”. Years gone by, but one night the Dark One found him again and he escaped again (I know he is supposed to be dead, but they didn’t show it on the show, and remember in the beginning of the series, they name on the script for Prince charming was Richard). So he rescued himself again on Neverland, but Peter was not there anymore.
This time he wanted to do something against the Dark One and goes to the fairies, but they couln’t help, so he asked the mermaids who bring him to a cursed witch that lived on the ground of the ocean. She told him for a price that the DarkOne could be killed by only 3 ways. First: True loves kiss (but who would kiss him?) Second: by his dagger (but this is most impossibile to get and the curse will go upon him) and third by a boy, which she made him a picture of Henry. The price he had to pay for her answer were his heart who she take from his body and by the way taught him magic. He give it to hr willingly. After so many years loosing all the people he loves it was him a pleasure to give it away.
This is the begining of HIM. The fairies take away his son and didn’t help him when he asks again, so now he has taken all the fairies in Neverland in prison and use the shadows of the boys who don’t obey him to find the child, to get read of his old enemy that not really exist anymore (Zoso, ore even that before him is dead).
The shadow collects more and more children and the parents who are left behind make a organization with person who has happened the same. I think that in the beginning they wouldn’t think that it was magic. This is when Wendy comes into play. After what happened to Bae the shadow returns and wants to take her brothers and she goes with them to look after them, cause their parents didn’t want to believe her and she want to rescue them or stay there with them. She goes their and speak with HIM. He told her that he only wants one boy, who should appear in her realm. If she helps to find him. He will help her to convince their parents of magic and help her to get rid of it in her realm, cause magic not really should be there and is only brought there from other realms, so if she say yes she could not only rescue her brothers but everybody from there land from the pure evil called „MAGIC“. (This all happened when Bae was on the ship by Hook)
She said yes and returned with their brothers in the morning. She show their parents the shadow and convinced them of the evil o magic and so the Home Office begins with their search and destroying of magic.Now they have found the child and bring Henry to HIM and not even Him knows that Henry is his own great-grandson and that even the DarkOne is his own son.
(I think I need a Archie…)
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Somebody posted here in one thread that Bae, Mulan and Phil would be in NL and not in FL, cause of the the landscape look very similar, like the same stone when Bae was brought by the lost boys and when he is lying half dead in the sand. (Of course I can’t the find pics it in the moment 👿 )
But in the interview H & K said that they can not make all possibile time lines. So if Bae was in NL with the others they could skip FL present and also shorten FL past. OK, they say too that Neal was with them in FL, but at this point so short after the final they can’t give something so spoilery away and evrybody, who is a regular watcher and not a obsessed watcher like us would think that Phil and Co is in still in fairy tail land, cause there were no hints at all. We didn’t even now that Phil was already reunited with his soul, so their journey to help Phil could bring them to NL. Was the wraith the thing that Rumple gets from NLs HIM. Is a wraith a reaped shadow? Or could only HE, who has the power of cutting the shadow also reunite the soul to the body? Maybe they searched for Fairy, but in FL aren’t any left so they go to NL nd find Tinkerbell?Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
Maybe the mermaids are more like normal humans. They drown the pirates, cause the would think they will kill them. They are not trusting somebody from above, like the giants did. (and common, they would have reasons for it) Theya re worried about their families and lifes, except for one of course.
“(Maybe he’s right. Maybe there is something the matter with me. I just don’t see how a world that makes such wonderful things could be bad.)
What was also little bit confusing in the final was that Regina didn’t know the map of Neverland but in Skin deep she takd about “certain mermaid”, that would mean they exist more than one magical realm. That could mean that in FL are mermaids they trust the people (Ariel) and NL mermaids who drown them (Lorelei in Germany), but in FL we see sea creatures who weren’t really nice too, so I think they are like humans and are bad, good and most of the time something in between.
On person suggested that the waters in all realms are connected. The well in SB, the lake Nostos in FL and maybe we see something similar in NL too. The ink was on the bottomless ground of the ocean. Maybe the special waters are like tunnels for magic that connect the realms and the ink was in the center. If our land is disconect with this water system magic can’t go to our land in the normal way, but a long time ago we had magic too and only lost it… OK I know I going too far now … but I have nothing to distract my head of spinningHeros don't get their Happy Ending!
Once the Blue fairy told that the magic of the Dark One do not belong in FL, Is maybe NL the beginning. I mean it is a little to much coincidenc that Henry is the searched boy and the undoing of the Dark One.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
