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I have no problem at all ignoring as a willing suspension of disbelief but I do think they have set up enough hints that Henry is special that they could make him the only one who ages in NL. Now if Dylan Schmid also looks a lot older after the summer break… well then we just have to fall back on suspension of disbelief. But it looked like he had already had quite a growth spurt before he filmed the last two episodes last year, so he may not have changed as much over the break.
This reminds me of the stories of how many people in the studio wanted to fire the 13 year old Annette Funicello from The Mickey Mouse Club when it became quite obvious that she was hitting puberty. I heard she was always grateful that Walt insisted on keeping her on the show.
[adrotate group="5"]And, further, the Charmings might ok with some of the things Hook, Rumple and Regina do because they want Henry back. I think a lot of S3 is going to be watching some of the heroes tread that fine line between good and evil.
Agreed. Sounds like a prescription for some great drama!
Well, we dunno yet just how long they’re gonna be in NL, most are guessing at least half a season, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s longer. Anyway, time in NL passes at a faster rate, so to speak. I just think it could be fun if they actually do use his growth spurt in the story somehow. Like, they could use it to sort of define just how much of a timey wimey discrepancy there is. If they get back to SB and to the SBers they’ve been gone a week, but Henry appears to have aged a year, that could help flesh out the laws of NL a bit in a cool way. (Of course, that’s assuming they wanted to write it as him being able to age in NL, but given he’s the only one who could age in SB, it would be consistent with his characterisation so far.)
They could even use it in the first episode of the season. When the CharMillStiltskins arrive in NL, it will seem to them that only minutes have elapsed since they left SB but it may have been a few months for Henry, which would allow them to acknowledge his growth spurt.
For all of those who had their hearts magically ripped out (and those whom I suspect may suffer the same experience in the coming season), I suggest Bing Crosby’s “Be Careful, It’s My Heart” from Holiday Inn.
Can totally see that happening. And I’d probably cheer. And I’ve never cheered for Regina before.
Yes, I expect now that we have Regina, Rumple, and Hook united in a common alliance we may see our former villains unleash some pretty strong measures against the enemy. We will probably see them do plenty of things the Charmings might not be able to bring themselves to do.
I like the idea that the title might refer to Henry as well as to GOAT. We’ve seen the writers often like to show the same theme applied to different characters in an episode (e.g. the romance of David and Mary Margaret, Shawn and Ashley, and Rumple and Belle in “Skin Deep”; the theme “I don’t want to be you” voiced by both Henry and Regina in “We Are Both”, etc…)
As so many have observed, Henry has a strong record as “The Truest Believer” among the Good Guys and both Greg and Tamara have repeatedly referred to their belief in their cause. What if it comes down to a conflict between Henry and his captors in some way in which the most devoted believer wins?
I think Greg is less committed to their cause than Tamara. His primary goal was always to find his father, and secondarily to exact revenge on Regina and destroy magic. Since it appears his father is dead, he may have less motivation to sacrifice Henry, especially if he begins to see echoes of his younger self in Henry. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see him switch sides and help the CharmMillsStiltskins rescue Henry.
Of course, we haven’t yet seen Tamara’s backstory, but she seems more committed than Greg, so I would say she is “The Truest Believer” among the villains. What if the Good Guys somehow manage to capture her while they are searching for Henry? I can see Snow and Emma trying to question a defiant Tamara when an impatient Regina says “Enough of this!” and just rips out Tamara’s heart to force her to assist in the rescue, just as Cora used Aurora.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
That’s a great point, Jo, and that occurred to me after I posted. It could be Henry PP is really after, but he also wants Rumple and Emma. The Dark One and the Savior.
I like that! It implies that PP needs the combination of dark magic and light magic. Plus, Henry is the combination of magic and non-magic since he is a child of parents from a land with magic who was born in a land without magic.
This whole yin/yang idea could also tie in with the shadow; perhaps when the shadow is ripped from a person, all of the evil within them is isolated in the shadow. If PP has been collecting shadows for centuries, he could be really bad!
@Josephine wrote:
Henry’s actually not too far off from where a normal kid his age is at. He just lives under supernatural circumstances.
I think he’s best described by a combination of the two quotes above. He has shown remarkable bravery and maturity in some events because he’s had to respond to remarkable challenges (where I might have just frozen up, sat in the corner and cried when I was 10!). Also, when we talk about him lying or running away, we need to remember that his mother was the Evil Queen! Unlike most kids, Henry was in a situation in the first season in which opposing his mother really was the right thing to do. But I like the fact that doesn’t mean they have written him as a 40-year-old in a kid suit. Because he’s more mature than average for his age, that means he can have a more mature response SOME TIMES – but it doesn’t guarantee it will happen ALL the time. The inconsistencies are what make the character more real and more interesting. Like Josephine, I’ve seen 12 year olds that were a lot more mature than many adults when dealing with some issues, but were still kids and were clueless about other issues. They still needed support and guidance.
We saw an early example of this way back in the first season. I think it was the third episode (“Snow Falls”). Henry had shown a lot of courage and maturity in bringing Emma to town and in making plans to break the curse. When Emma expresses doubt that Regina will fall for Henry’s lie about being at the arcade instead of with Emma, he says “She wants to believe it, so she does” and Emma replies “Imagine that!” with an ironic tone in her voice that clearly refers to Henry’s need to believe in the curse, but the comment goes right over his head – he clearly takes her reaction literally. I liked that scene when I saw it because it was the first clue I had that the writers were not going to fall into the TV trap of making the kid too precocious and always putting adult lines in his mouth.
@Demileto wrote:
Oh, nice! I’ve watched that episode only once (I got stoked about OUAT only around the time “A Land Without Magic” aired) and it’s been so long I did not remember that. It does seem like a mysterious someone pushed Emma to give up Henry for adoption, doesn’t it?
Well that sounds like an idea for a great way to fill the Once void until Season 3: a Season 1 re-watch!
I’m sorry to see her go too. I thought the character’s relationships with Belle and with Dr. Whale both had a lot of potential. I do hope she can come back for a guest role in one episode because one thing they never addressed after “Child of the Moon” was a conversation between Red and Granny after Red learned that Granny had lied to her about her mother. They could have nicely paralleled Emma’s lie to Henry about his father.
