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What a great educational idea for kids. You would be shocked to know how many college students can’t read a map.
[adrotate group="5"]@Charlie Francis wrote:
I don’t see any reason why she should get rid of all of her magic and leverage just yet. She may be trying to change, but it would be idiotic of her not to have an ace in the hole just in case.
As for the hearts? Well, whose to say their owners are even in Storybrooke? Or even that they belong to decent people, and not say, King George?
I agree. While I do want to see her struggle with trying to become a little less evil, I don’t want to see her give up her power (yet). Given the ominous final scene of “The Lady of the Lake”, she may need that power soon. It sure looked like King George was still planning how to get revenge on Charming and watching Charming play with Henry suggests he will probably want to deprive Charming of Henry. Just imagine Regina’s reaction if George tries to hurt Henry. I’m betting we would see Regina more angry than we have ever seen her, and that’s saying a lot. George would be toast! And, Regina would probably have to work with Charming 9and possibly Snow and Emma if they are back) to rescue Henry. The conflicts between Regina and the Charmings while they try to work together could be fascinating.
I thought this was a good episode but not quite as good as the first two of this season. I liked the character of Lancelot and learning about James’ mother, but I fear maintaining three story lines (Enchanted Forest past, Enchanted Forest present, and Storybrooke present) might be one too many. I’d really rather see most of the screen time devoted to the events of the present in the two worlds, with as little flashback to the pre-curse events as possible, although I’m sure we’ll need a little. I thought last week’s technique of concentrating on just two story lines and just showing us the third in a final scene worked better.
The scenes between Emma and Snow were great but the amount of change and growth in the characters was not as much as what we saw in Regina last week. Of course Emma and Snow don’t have as far to go as Regina. I’m also glad we finally got to see ogres! I wonder if the writers are making Aurora such an annoying jerk so they can transform her later or if they are going to keep her annoying.
Lots of other generally good stuff in this episode. The scenes of the deserted castle were very moving and i like the way they are setting up the ongoing conflict with Cora. Finally, someone here last year posted a link to interviews with the cast (sorry I’m too lazy to go search back through the archives to find out who) in which each actor was asked what they would like the writers to do with their character in Season Two. Jared Gilmore said “I want Henry to get a sword!”. I wonder if that final scene of tonight’s episode was planned before that interview or if they decided to do it in response to his statement?
Favorite moments:
1. Emma and Snow’s conversation in the nursery.
2. Emma learning to defer to Snow in ogre fighting and in the Enchanted Forest in general.
3. Getting to see James’ mother again. I always wondered what happened to her.Least favorite moment:
The fight with Cora at the end. Emma dumps a little powder from a couple of cartridges into the wardrobe and the thing goes up in flames without even any kindling????? I expect to employ a little suspension of disbelief in a show with ogres, dragons, etc… but that what was just way too impossible, no matter how dry that wardrobe was. That was the only moment in the entire series that I ever felt really annoyed by a plot device.Yes, I heard the hearts also. We’ve never heard that sound from the vault before, have we? I wonder if it was just a background sound added for dramatic effect or if we were meant to assume that the sound was really there. If it were the latter, could it be that Henry has some special ability to hear them that no one else has?
@Marilou wrote:
I think the reason the gun did not work on the dragon was simply because it was a DRAGON, it’s just so big and it has a thick skin. Opening fire on a dragon seems to be the equivalent of a kid throwing pebbles at an adult, it’s annoying as hell but it’s gonna take a really long time and a truck load of pebbles before killing you.
When Emma will run out of bullet in is when will be the end of modern weapons in EF. Molotov cocktail are not exactly modern (alcohol burns… we did not just recently figure that out). I think Emma’s modern contribution on the battlefront in EF will be more on the defense side of things. Being a sherif comes with some sort of formation right? (riot police, how to properly immobilized someone with minimum danger to yourself… that kind of things)
Indeed, handguns are generally useless against large animals like grizzly bears so I wouldn’t expect one to be very effective against a dragon. On the other hand, it could be very effective against bad guys who are used to their armor stopping most weapons.
When Emma runs out of ammunition, they could redo the old Star Trek episode and have her make gunpowder like Capt. Kirk did! (Just joking – I think they will be more original than that.) But I agree she could probably come up with lots of modern tricks that would surprise her enemies.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Regina was “tilting at windmills”.
Brilliant symbolism.
I agree too. That’s a great interpretation.
@NONNIE wrote:
Once Upon a Time: Season Two Ratings
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/once-upon-a-time-season-two-ratings-24748/
ABC ratings for Once Upon a Time Last year, Once Upon a Time got off to a positive start in the ratings but then kept falling each week. It looked like the show would be in danger of being cancelled but the numbers picked up a bit and stopped falling. Will the ratings hold steady this season, rise or sink? It’s not magic but we will have to be patient.
Here are the TV show’s ratings for the 2012-13 season, the best way to tell if Once Upon a Time is going to be cancelled or renewed for season three.
These figures will be updated as the weeks progress so be sure to bookmark and return to this page:
Episode 02-02: Sunday, 10/07/12
3.4 in the demo (-13% change) with 9.84 million (-13% change).
Season averages: 3.65 in the demo with 10.60 million.Episode 02-01: Sunday, 09/30/12
3.9 rating in the 18-49 demographic with 11.36 million total viewers.
Season averages: 3.90 in the demo with 11.36 million.Year-to-year, the season debut of Once Upon a Time was down slightly from the series premiere, by 3% in the demo (vs a 4.0 rating) and down by 12% in viewership (vs 12.93 million). These were the highest numbers since the show’s second episode last October. It was a very strong start.
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I did a quick cut-and-paste of the numbers from the website Nonnie provided into a spreadsheet. The numbers don’t quite agree. The description says episode 02-02 had a 3.4 rating “in the demo” but doesn’t say *which* demographic it is referring to. According to my calculation, it must be the “People 2+” demo, which is the only demographic that yields a result of about 9.8 million viewers. So, 3.4% of all the people in the US over the age of two, living in a house with a TV, watched “We Are Both”
But the paragraph about episode 1 says “a 3.9 rating in the 18-49 demographic with 11.36 million viewers” which can’t be right. None of the 18-49 demographics are large enough to yield that many viewers from 3.9% of their population. If we use the “People 2+” demographic again, we get almost 11.3 million viewers, which is close to the quoted value of 11.36 million but not quite in agreement. Perhaps they are assuming a slightly different population for that demographic.
Anyway, thanks for posting the information about ratings. From what I hear, if a show stays above 3.5% in a large demographic like “People 2+”, it has a good chance of being renewed. Of course, that’s just a rule of thumb and the specifics of how well the show does compared to others, how much revenue it brings in, and how much it costs to produce will really determine its fate. I’ve attached my numbers below, if anyone wants to see them. All populations are in millions. From the information given, I assume the quoted ratings of 3.4% and 3.9% only apply to the “People 2+” demographic. I wonder what the numbers are for the other groups?
Ack! Sorry the formatting got so messed up – forum software does not seem to lend itself to preserving columns. If you are trying to read what was once a table, the right-most column of numbers are the 3.9% calculation applied to each demographic. The numbers to the left of that are the corresponding numbers for 3.4%, and the numbers to the right of that are the populations of each demographic from the website Nonnie provided.
Viewers (M) Viewers (M)
Demographic Population (M) Ep 2-02 Rating = 3.4 Ep 2-01 Rating = 3.9
Households 114.2 3.8828 4.4538
People 2+ 289.42 9.84028 11.28738
Adults 18-49 126.54 4.30236 4.93506
Women 18-49 63.98 2.17532 2.49522
Men 18-49 62.56 2.12704 2.43984
Adults 18-34 67.66 2.30044 2.63874
Women 18-34 33.89 1.15226 1.32171
Men 18-34 33.77 1.14818 1.31703
Adults 25-54 118.7 4.0358 4.6293
Teens 12-17 24.02 0.81668 0.93678
Kids 2-11 39.61 1.34674 1.54479Well, we did see a windmill last year! (The one in Mr. Gold’s shop, which had supposedly been in David and Kathryn’s yard.)
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