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I actually liked the way they presented the adoption but I do agree with Phee’s comment that they should have inserted a line by Rumple to the effect of “I’ve generated all the required documents and there will be no delay” since it would only have taken a few seconds of dialogue. I think the main problem some folks have (correct me if I’m wrong, those of you who were bothered by it) is that without a clearer indication that Gold pulled some strings, it seems like an unbelievable behavior by the guy at the adoption agency and unbelievable behavior by a character always takes us out of the story. I didn’t have that problem because I assumed Rumple’s involvement took care of it, but they weren’t very explicit in stressing that involvement, so I can see how some people didn’t assume it was there.
This is a different criticism than saying we expected the adoption to be a very involved plot. I was actually one of those who thought it might be (based upon the line “…the boy I procured for you” as once-dude said) but I wasn’t at all disappointed that it turned out otherwise. While intricate plot twists can be fun, and this show has certainly had its share of them, this has always been a show in which the plot exists to service the characters, never the other way around. Learning that Pan was Rumple’s father was a surprising twist, but it was mainly valuable because it gave us a new layer of meaning for Rumple’s character, not for the intricate way in which it was woven into the pre-existing plot (although I admire that too). As Swanning-off said, a more involved depiction of the adoption process would have cost us time seeing Regina with Henry, or interactions among the other characters, and that’s what I really want to see. So, I’m happy with it, although I concede they should have tossed in that extra line in order to avoid requiring too much suspension of disbelief.
[adrotate group="5"]timespacerParticipantFair point that all the necessary documents were probably forged and sighted by the agent, but I do wish they’d clarified things. Just give Mr Gold an extra line, “All the necessary documents have been falsified and forwarded to the authorities, and your application has been approved. All that remains to be done is for you to go to Boston to collect the child from the unsuspecting agency,” as he handed that envelope over to Regina in his shop.
Excellent point. A line like that would have made the whole thing much more clear.
December 2, 2013 at 10:43 am in reply to: 3×09 Save Henry — FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS – – – #227492timespacerParticipantFavorite Scenes Regina calling Henry her little Prince. Regina asking baby Henry to give her a chance.
I forgot to include those two in my post but they are on my list, too (especially since Regina repeated the “prince” line aboard the Jolly Roger.) Wretchedly sentimental of me, but once in a while… I get that way (Or should I say, “Once Upon a Time…”?)
timespacerParticipantHere is where I’m still having issues: the way Gold was presented the one time we saw him in Welcome To SB and the way he was here.
In Welcome to SB, he was obviously cursed with false memories and was generally confused about whatever Regina was talking about.
But in Save Henry, he was much more Rumple than he was the Gold we saw in Welcome to SB. He’s actually standing in his shop in 309, impatient, waiting for Regina, almost as if he knows she’s coming about the baby.
I didn’t get that from it. Clearly, he was thinking about *something* in the beginning of that scene, and I thought he might have been wrestling with subconscious feelings planted by the curse, but I didn’t think he was impatient.
timespacerParticipantI still wish though that Regina and Mary Margaret could have a heartfelt conversation.
Me too. But I think Regina is still a long way from that point. Probably in the final year of the series, if not the very last episode.
timespacerParticipantMe too! They could title the episode “Waiting for August” (since he will presumably never show up.)
timespacerParticipantI just assumed that the curse gave Mr. Gold personality traits and a backstory that were similar to those of Rumple.
timespacerParticipantSorry – I still think Blue is good! But I do suspect that she won’t initially be willing to restore Tink to active fairy status. However, when she sees that people believe in Tink, I think she will relent.
December 2, 2013 at 6:46 am in reply to: 3×09 Save Henry — FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS – – – #227418timespacerParticipantDisliked: How seemingly easy it was for Regina to adopt Henry- Surely she should’ve had to jump through a few more hoops. The adoption guy hadn’t even heard of Storybrooke, how did he know whether it was real or not?
We have a discussion of this going on over in the “Henry’s adoption” thread. I’m guessing Gold greased the wheels for the adoption, but that’s just my idea.
December 2, 2013 at 6:16 am in reply to: 3×09 Save Henry — FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS – – – #227415timespacerParticipantFavorite Moments:
First, by far, was seeing Regina break free from the Tree of Regret and take back Henry’s heart. Take that, Pan!
I also liked the scene where Regina told the story to Henry while mixing the potion. I think perhaps those who didn’t like the idea of the potion are seeing it as a plot device (which was admittedly not needed for the plot) but I see it as an important element of character development. Regina didn’t just adopt the son of the Savior by accident, but chose to keep him even after she learned who he was and the risk he posed to her curse. The potion was just a way to prevent her fear of the future from poisoning her relationship with Henry.
Did anybody else notice that baby Henry’s jumper had a picture of a bus on it? A nice reference to Henry’s bus trip to Boston in the pilot!
The reunion of Rumple and Bae was another favorite. With everything else going on, they haven’t had a lot of chances to explore their relationship. I hope we get to see more of it in the future.
Least favorite:
I didn’t have problems with the adoption that some people did (although I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out there is more to it than we were shown) but I do have one problem with Regina’s decision to adopt a child. Didn’t she know that he would be the only child in Storybrooke who would age? Didn’t it occur to her that the kid might some day have questions about that? Until we see otherwise, I’m going to assume that she planned to tell Henry her version of the truth at some point when he was older, but he got the book from Mary Margaret before she could give him “the talk” and once he ID’d her as the Evil Queen, it was too late. Otherwise, it would be really poor planning on her part. I hope they address this in some future episode, but I don’t see how they could do it in a flashback. I would think she would have been peppered with questions about aging from a seven or eight year old Henry, but obviously Jared Gilmore can’t play that part anymore and I doubt they could find a kid the right age who would resemble him enough to pull it off. But I would settle for just hearing Regina reminisce about her plan, perhaps in a future conversation with Henry.
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