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Well I’m still holding out for the Blue fairy as the final villain, so she’s out. Since nothing leaked from the cast and crew anyway, my guess is a well known but not particularly exciting or headline worthy Disney antagonist. Scar perhaps?
[adrotate group="5"]I agree that the timeline of Marian’s imprisonment and death is missing a few details, but I’m not sure if we’ll ever get an answer because the original timeline is gone. No one remembers it. I’ve never watched Wonderland but tumblr referenced some time travel story lines. Have then established any time travel rules on Wonderland?
I don’t think she will regress either. I think the biggest change will be Regina’s relationship with Emma. She won’t hate her, but I don’t see her wanting to have anything to do with her after this. No more magic lessons. No more joining their magic to block out the moon. Bridges have been burned. She won’t try to harm her, but it’s going to be a lot of cold shoulders at Henry hand offs.
Edit to add:
I think up until this point, Regina never really saw Emma as a “Charming.” I think Regina initially read Emma as a bug to be squashed (Season 1), then as someone to emulate in order to salvage her relationship with Henry (early season 2), then as the person standing in her way of having said relationship with Henry (late season 2), and finally as an equal (season 3); someone else with a talent for magic and a maternal connection to Henry.Season 4 will be a bitter divorce.
So I’ve got a whole list of things that would have changed the timeline but somehow didn’t.
1) Emma stops her parents meeting resulting in a Ball thrown for the engagement of James and Abigail, during which Snow White breaks in, Regina’s black Knights have a sword fight, and an unknown Princess gets captured. How does that not change the timeline? You could argue that the ball would have happened regardless, but certainly the fight would not have.
2) Hook met Snow White in the enchanted forest. Wouldn’t that screw up the timeline for season two. Why didn’t Snow recognize Hook from the Enchanted Forest after she and Emma got sucked into the hat. Meeting him literally resulted in her being burned alive.
3) Snow and Regina meet and above burning happens. Even though Snow escaped unscathed, am I really supposed to believe that this event would not have altered Regina’s strategy toward dealing with Snow. In this scene, Regina learns that Snow is willing to use dark magic to kill her. Wouldn’t that put her on guard? Would that alter her strategy? And Snow. Would Snow really be so quick to stop Regina’s execution when Regina BURNED HER ALIVE. WTF.
4) Rumble doesn’t question why he’s holding the black fairies wand in his dungeon? Where did he even get that, I thought Blue had it. And he doesn’t notice that Elsa’s urn is missing.
5) Regina doesn’t question it when prisoners go missing in her dungeon?
Ugh So Many Plot Holes.
I read your essay and that in no way makes Rumbelle more palatable. I like Rumpel and Belle as characters and I think they could eventually be a good couple — they certainly have true love — but it’s a relationship built on lies and manipulation and that is distasteful.
Which brings me to my biggest issue with the OutlawQueen/Marian developments. They took a healthy relationship for both these characters; a second chance for two widowers and the one relationship (lover/friend/anything) that Regina has had in her life that wasn’t corrupted by her own fears or by the actions of others, and then they twisted it in the vilest way. And the worst part is, they’ve established them as soul mates. So either they end up together, because fate and all that, or Regina goes the rest of her life with a closed off heart, because how could she possibly open it up again.
This show sucks at relationships.
I will never buy the argument that he didn’t actually kill him so it’s okay. The intent was there. Just because he failed to kill the man doesn’t give him a pass for attempting it. Also, you blame Regina. Really? Did she hold a gun to his head? I’m sick and tired of the double standard between these two characters. You want to say that Robin shouldn’t be with Regina for killing Marian — something we don’t know actually happened and now doesn’t matter because it didn’t happen with the timeline change — but are happy to watch an extremely abusive relationship in the form of Belle and Rumple. I just don’t get it.
PoM, by that logic Belle shouldn’t be with Rumple because he was going to kill her father and was only stopped by Emma.
Here’s the thing PoM. We don’t actually know what happened. If Regina killed Marian, how could Robin not have known about it? And why would he blame himself for her death? There is something else going on there. I see two possibilities.
1) Something happened that lead Robin to believe that Marian had died do to him placing her in danger. Ex. He stole from one of King Georges carriages and Marian was taken during the scuffle. Later word of her execution (by King George) reaches him and he blames himself. Unbeknownst to him, however; she escaped and on route back to Shirwood Forrest was captured for aiding Snow White and was executed by Regina’s black knights.
2) Marian escaped/was released from Regina’s dungeon, found her way back to Robin, and died some other way.
Option 1 makes the most sense because it prevents Robin from ever having known she was in Regina’s dungeon.
Now on the part about it being a deal breaker, he knows who she was (The Evil Queen). He knows that she killed countless villagers on her quest for Snow White and her vengeance. If he was able to overlook all of that already, why is this death a deal breaker, especially now that’s it’s been erased.
Having said all that, I think he’ll return to Marian, but be very conflicted about his feelings for Regina. Marian is obviously very in love with Robin Hood, but to him, she’s been gone for 3 years or so (Which btw, how the heck did Roland recognize her) and he’s moved on. He’s gunna be hella confused about his feelings.
Regina I think will just emotionally shut down. She’s been burned too many times to open her heart again. I don’t think she will go back to evil, but I do think she will adopt the No-Good-Deed-Goes-Unpunished philosophy and just wash her hands of anybody’s who’s name isn’t Henry. Elsa may be on her way, but Regina’s the new Snow Queen in Storybrooke because her heart is Frozen(TM).
