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@41Rapunzel wrote:
didnt Rumple take Snows hair to make her potion specific to her needs?
He did, but then he took a few of her hairs as payment for the potion. We don’t know yet what he wanted them for.
[adrotate group="5"]If the curse was created for Rumplestiltskin, either by himself or someone else, I don’t see how he could have enacted it. It requires the heart of the thing you love most. The only time I can assume Rumple would have wanted to use it would have been after he lost Bae (however that happened) or after he lost Belle. In either case he wouldn’t have had the heart. He thought Belle was dead, and I cannot imagine him killing Bae to help him forget that he lost Bae.
And if he just wanted to forget his own pain, wouldn’t there be some other way to make that happen? Using the curse for that end would make him a sort of suicide-bomber amnesia-curser. It’s not that I am saying he is above that. I don’t know that Rumple loses a lot of sleep worrying about other people’s pain. But this curse is intended to make other people suffer. It is only going to be used by someone who seriously hates other people and wants to inflict pain as revenge.
If Adam and Eddie follow the pattern of Lost, then each season gets a new villain who makes last season’s villain look “positively moral.” Can’t wait to see what happens!
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Perhaps that is their price for dealing with magic all the time (i.e. neither dwarves nor fairies are permitted to fall in love, marry, or have a family). It’ll be interesting to find out where fairies come from and whether there are male fairies. The penalty for failing to serve the magic realm by granting wishes would be a fairy losing her wings. It’s not clear whether there would be a penalty for a dwarf failing to mine for diamonds.
Maybe no magical creature is allowed to have love. Maybe that’s a strictly human thing. There were certainly going to be major consequences for Rumple if he allowed himself to love — he would have lost his magic altogether. I might be mistaken but I seem to recall somebody saying that love is the most powerful magic of all. (Did I dream that?) Maybe you can either have one or the other, but not both. EQ had magic but no love. And didn’t Malificent lose her love? I don’t know. Just shows there is a lot more to this show than it seems at first glance. (Which is why I love it!)
@mia wrote:
Just found this: http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/once-upon-a-time-season-1-episode-14-preview-kitsis-horowitz/
As for Emilie de Ravin’s encore as Belle, “She’s got a nice little scene” with Grumpy, continues the EP. “She’s sitting there [alive], with the person who loves her [Rumpelstiltskin] not realizing it, and he would be someone I would not want to piss off.”
This tells us where to put the event in the timeline. After the EQ went to Rumpel’s castle and told him Belle was dead.
Oh, I get it now. I had read that wrong too. I thought they meant she was sitting there with the person who loves her —- not realizing that it was the person who loves her. I assumed she would be in Storybrooke with Mr. Gold, but not recognize him or know that he loves her.
Just goes to show how one little comma can change the entire story!
@darcyfarrow wrote:
If it takes locks of hair from the darkest souls to create the curse (and I noticed Rumple wasn’t among those dark souls) maybe a counter-curse can be created with locks from the lightest souls…and Rumple kept a bit of Snow’s hair…
Interesting. I like it.
My first question about the curse is WHY did Rumplestiltskin create the curse in the first place? Was it made-to-order for the EQ? That seems only logical because why would he create such a “monstrosity” if somebody hadn’t specifically asked for it? Was he going to use it himself and then changed his mind? Or traded it away for something more important to him? It makes more sense to me that EQ specifically asked for it. And I totally think that if Rumple created it for somebody else, he would embed a failsafe to protect himself from the effects of the curse. He had this in mind when he set up the “please” clause with EQ. She even commented that he wouldn’t remember who he was, and he dodged the issue and got her promise.
I can only assume that Regina will press him to know how he avoided the effects of the curse, and what else she doesn’t know about the curse!
I am spoiler-phobic. I do watch the preview for the next week’s episode, but I try hard to avoid everything else (which is why I really appreciate it when people are careful to keep spoilers out of general discussion). I love what I call those Twilight Zone moments (“It’s a cookbook!!!!!”) for which LOST was so famous. I managed to stay unspoiled for almost all of the big ones and was able to get the full impact that the producers, writers, actors, composer, etc. put into that one OMG 😯 moment. I am trying to do the same for OUaT.
@rumplegoldfankristi wrote:
Alright, RC is supposed to be tweeting tonight. Now I know what I’m going to ask him. I must know what Rumple’s drink of choice is. If the OUaT gods are smiling upon me maybe my tweet won’t get buried in the other 100,000 tweets from 16 year-old fangirls.
Ugh. Got a meeting tonight (and I don’t really comprehend tweeting anyway!), so I will expect a full report in the morning! Good luck.
@rumplegoldfankristi wrote:
Maybe what Rumple was drinking from his flask wasn’t alcohol but was his special tea.
My kids always wonder why they don’t get to drink mama’s special tea. 😉
I think that Rumple trying to keep his son from being fed into the meat grinder that was the ogre war is not bad or cowardly. They say that the war has “taken its toll” and that is why they are now conscripting 14 year old boys AND girls. Yes, Rumple cowered before the soldiers like a lame peasant before FIVE bullies on horseback. The boy was full of adolescent bravado because he didn’t know the way the world works. Rumplestiltskin does. Trying to save his son, even through scheming and stealing is something most any parent would do. If Rumple was indeed a coward, to me that makes his efforts that much more noble because he overcame his very nature in order to protect his son. Say what you want about the rest of what he does, you’ll never persuade me that these particular actions were anything but good and totally justified.
