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Totally and completely 100% disagree with you. I think she was better in this episode then she’s been yet! What I think you see as over-acting was just Bailee playing the part. Snow, whether she’s Ginnifer or Bailee is a dramatic character.
I think the girl should win an Emmy for the scene where Eva dies, because her emotion was amazing. What really impresses me the most though is that either she and Ginnifer just happen to have similar expressions, mannerisms, and acting styles, or Bailee is actually that good at playing not just Snow but Ginnifer Goodwin’s version of Snow. I already loved her for the character by looks alone, but she blew me away this episode.
But to each is own. 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]@Sedorna wrote:
I want Snow to kill Cora because I want Regina to see just what hatred and bitterness looks like from the outside in. She’s far too close to her mother to really see things objectively, and she herself has so much sadness and bitterness inside her it’s affecting her thoughts. However, if she were to see just how it feels to have somebody you love taken from you, then she might actually begin to change.
However, I don’t think Cora will go down that easily. I can, however, see her faking her own death so that Snow thinks she’s killed her. After all, she wants to turn Snow’s heart black, and murder will do that.
I disagree that losing her mother would push Regina toward goodness, I’d imagine it would just push her farther into darkness especially at this point when she thinks her mother loves her. She knows everything Cora has done to her, and has tried killing her herself, but she still loves her regardless.
I DO agree with you though that Cora may fake her death to send Snow into that downward spiral she’s been working toward. Since apparently she’s not listed in the next few eps, I definitely see it happening, because like you said Cora won’t go down that easily. I think in the end Regina will have to be the one to kill her once and for all.
@Keb wrote:
Blue Fairy couldn’t come up in the elevator–just hit me–because the elevator requires someone to operate it. She’s running the elevator. But Cora and Regina just used magic.
Dude, yes! Haha, I didn’t think of that! Except it would have made FAR more sense for David to stay down and operate the elevator and Blue to help Snow…since…you know…she’s magic? But whatevs.
I’m going to try to avoid the Regina argument as much as possible, lol.
Favorites:
Baylee. Madison. That child, I love her. What’s amazing is she doesn’t just nail Snow White, she nails Ginnifer Goodwin How are they not related? Lol. Her little bratty scene was well done without going overboard, but the scenes where Eva dies and during the funeral should win that girl an award of some kind.Speaking of Ginny Goodwin, she’s was excellent, as usual. Her reaction to Johanna’s death was beyond heartbreaking, and her speech at the end was chilling. I can’t WAIT to see her next week!
I’m sorry, so sorry…but Johanna being tossed out the window. It was just such a shock! I was like, waaait, no they’re not going to let her go and “HOLY CRAP!” I hated it…but it was a great scene altogether.
Regina’s face both when Cora told Snow why she killed Eva and when Johanna flew out the window. I think she actually though they were going to let her go.
Henry’s sass. Lol he kinda sounded like his adopted mom!
Emma rubbing her head when Neal tells her why he can sail a pirate ship. That poor woman, I don’t blame her for the headache.
Hook getting bested by Emma AGAIN with an umbrella stand. I love him, but someone should revoke his villain card.
Emma calling Hook a stab-happy pirate.
Least favorites:
Regina saying “you are who put Evil in my name” or however she put it. That was just…ignorant. She’s done horrible things, she earned that title fair and square. Besides, she wasn’t “always” the queen. Snow was the rightful queen.
THE STINKING FIANCE. Did we really need a love triangle like that this season? Wasn’t MM/David/Katherine bad enough? It’s just so…ugh. Contrived?
The fact that Emma wasn’t around on her mother’s birthday. 🙁
The fact that we have to wait a week for the next episode!!
I don’t like Blue, I don’t think she’s as benevolent as everyone says she is. I don’t think she’s evil, just maybe has her own agenda? Like when Geppetto was building the wardrobe and she told him that Snow was in labor and Pinocchio couldn’t go through, she then bails to make “final preparations” and leaves a desperate father with that decision? That just seemed…weird to me.
I was joking the other day with my friends about how it seems like Cora and Rumple are pulling all the strings, about how absolutely everything goes back to Rumple, but what if it’s BLUE who is the one pulling ALL the strings?! Everything that happened was all by HER design! For her own…diabolical reasons? Lol. She was the one who sent Bae through that portal to begin with! 😆
My issue with the theory though is that if Princess Eva is the sister of Prince Henry, that would mean Prince Henry is also Cora’s half-brother by sharing the same father, King Xavier. Yet, I believe Cora’s love interest is supposed to be Prince Henry, so that would be incestuous, even if she didn’t know he was her half-brother. Yikes! I don’t think Disney would let Adam and Eddy go that far on a family show
They weren’t saying that Henry was Eva’s brother, only that Eva and Cora share the same father. I think Henry is just some poor dope that the miller arranged to marry Cora.
I was re-watching the promo for the hundredth time when I realised something that I kept missing/not taking in. Regina pushes Emma against a wall and raises the dagger as if to stab her. At first I thougt that theres no way she will stab Emma because she can’t die – her role is too major. But then I remembered the candle. Other posters on here are speculating that Snow might’ve kept the candle because we didn’t actually see her give it back to Blue (Cora).
So here’s my theory:
Cora and Regina fight against the good guys. Regina pushes Emma (maybe with magic) and stabs her with the dagger. The good guys manage to get rid of Cora and Regina and try to heal Emma. Snow then decides to use the candle because there is no way she would let her own daughter die when she knows there is something she can do to save her. Instead of choosing someone to kill, she goes into Reginas’ grave thing where all her hearts are and picks one; not knowing who is going to die. And that could be why Charming sais ‘what did you do’. Then after Emma is saved, we find out whos heart it was. I’m thinking that maybe Cora took a good guys heart, such as a dwarf or Red, and she ends up unknowingly killing them.TOTALLY on board with this. It’s pretty much what I was thinking, too. Although I don’t think it will be Red. The writers, creators and fans all love her way too much and there’s still so much left to do with her character. (Plus I would throw a chainsaw at the TV if they destroyed FrankenWolf!) It would be someone lesser but still very meaningful to Snow, like a dwarf or Archie, but I’m going with a dwarf. Like maybe poor Sneezy, since everyone is kind of ignoring him since he crossed the border, they wouldn’t have noticed if Cora got his heart. And it would totally kill Snow. 😥
If this happens, I will probably cry because I got a little choked up at Johanna’s death and we only knew about her for ten minutes! Pay attention when the episode starts, if a minor character is seen about or conversing with Snow in any way…we’ll have our answer! And the fandom may implode.
I’m okay with them bringing Snow Dark back, because I have to say, she’s pretty epic, but I hope it doesn’t permanently alter her character too much. I’m just hoping Emma will “Mom, I love you,” her at some point!! Either way I’m so excited to see where they’re taking her!
I was just about to say pretty much what Schmacky ^ just said. I agree that they’re half sisters, and Cora is the product of an affair.
Eva’s father could have had a thing with a maid in the castle, (which, come on, happened all the time,) which would add a lot of weight to the line about knowing what it’s like to “be the miller’s daughter”, if Cora knew that her real father was the king. I’m definitely placing my bets on it, and maybe even that they grew up together, Cora as like her handmaid or childhood companion. (In the clocktower, she snapped at Johanna, calling her a handmaid, and putting quite a bit of bitterness behind that word.)
And for the record, I called this ages ago! Haha 🙂
Honestly, I have always thought that Blue is, maybe not evil necessarily, but certainly not benevolent like she’s painted to be. And I don’t just say that because I’ve hated her since Dreamy. Lol.
Cora and Eva- sisters. This is also what I believe.
It is true that the Snow white and Rose red story also is shown in Snow and Rubys friendship, but that doesn’t mean they can’t have another go at it. Ruby is a side character in the show and her story is not one that drives the overall plot of the show, so I just don’t think that is going to be it. the fairytale Snow white and Rose red will have much more meaning to the overall plot, of why the curse happened and how to undoo it, because it is one of only two fairytales that we ever see any text from in Henrys book.
Snow, Eva and Cora on the other hand are very central to this.Yeah, this was what I was thinking. I’ve always assumed that Snow and Red were meant to be those characters, but like you said that doesn’t mean they can’t change it up now and make it this way since it isn’t like girls literally lived out those stories.
I like this idea too. The Queen of Hearts is associated with roses as well. Specifically red roses. Cora was also carrying a rose on her way into SB. Assuming it’s the same one Regina left with her but perhaps it has more significance than that. The rose was dead. If Rose Red was good at some point, the dead rose could show us that the good is gone and what is left is black and rotten.
Wow, I actually hadn’t thought of that, but yeah! That makes a lot of sense.
Now, I read an interview with the woman casted as Eva and she mentioned that her story was a two-parter. That pretty much confirms that her story will intermingle with The Miller’s Daughter.
Just imagine that if this is true, the effect it will have on Henry’s family tree! And if they actually make Regina Rumple’s daughter, (which, for the record, I hope they don’t) WHOA. That family. David was so right about Thanksgiving. 😆
