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"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Did anyone else find Regina’s ventriloquizing (heartriloquizing?) about the Rumple/Will comparison mildly distasteful? For someone allegedly reformed, even if she is currently enemies with Rumple, I found that to be a bit over the top. I actually think this parallels some of the broader tendencies in the writing of conflicts in OUAT at the moment, where there’s this emphasis on really below the belt verbal cruelty.
Definitely. Doing that actually served no purpose in helping Regina save Robin. It was cruelty for cruelty’s sake and the big reason why I didn’t like Regina this episode.
See…it didn’t come across as that mega big cruel to me…if anything it seemed like a practical mean joke a friend would play on another friend…like write them a love letter and tell them it’s from their secret crush.
And besides…I’m sure Rumple’s relieved to know those weren’t Belle’s true feelings towards him.
But as for it being cruelty for the sake of cruelty…okay, maybe a lot of vengeance was Regina’s reasoning for saying that, but come on…after what this man put her through the past day or so, even threatening her own soul mate and his son….payback’s a (beep).
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I wouldn’t put it past Zelena to fake a pregnancy, and I’m expecting a false pregnancy storyline….it’s the one Soap Opera move Once hasn’t pulled yet! Especially if as someone in the forums once stated, Zelena just calls a pregnancy to save her own life. Zelena would be Once’s version of Chicago’s Roxie Hart with the “having a baby.”
With the six leaf clover thing, Zelena could realistically make it look like she is pregnant then conveniently “lose” the baby before the 9 months are up. It would be an extremely low blow but one I wouldn’t put past Zelena. Create trouble between OQ because Robin would feel a sense of duty to his “unborn child” then “miscarry” and guilt trip Robin over the fact that he didn’t want the child in the first place. That’s twisted and yet not beyond Zelena.
Yeah….a fake Zelena pregnancy and a real Regina pregnancy at the same time…I can see Adam and Eddy doing this.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
The ends don’t justify the means for Rumple or Regina. Rumple made himself into a monster. The fact that now after 300 years he’s like “wait, I don’t want to be all the way evil” does not earn sympathy from me. And he is still doing evil things to prevent himself from turning all the way evil! That is counter intuitive.
But is that not what Regina did? Regina did tons of bad things in her pursuit of vengeance against Snow including: Slaughtering a village, sending numerous children to be eaten by a cannibal witch, enslaving the huntsman and using him as a sex slave, etc. Regina made those decisions herself until one day she decided she didn’t want to be that person any more. Does Regina deserve sympathy? Regina claims that Rumple made her a monster yet Rumple wasn’t around in those examples, those were Regina’s own choices.
Umm…Rumplestilskin himself took credit for turning Regina into a monster. He said it himself….”Now I have my monster.” in 2×05 The Doctor.
Is he fully responsible for Regina’s actions, no because those were her own, but his dark influence and Darkness 101 Private Lessons sure did create her into becoming the monster she became. Had he not stopped her from running away on her wedding day, the Evil Queen would have never existed, so those villagers, children, and even Graham would still be alive, so he is partially if not half responsible for the monster her became.
It’s like with a child…if you raise your child to be bad, then the terrible things they do in life are your fault. Now at the end of the day, Regina’s choices were her own, but had circumstances been different (cough) Rumple not even showing up on the wedding day to turn Regina around (cough) then none of the evil would have been committed.
Now we can dance around this Whose To Blame issue again POM, but we both know we’ll still be right back at square one.
And just as Belle giving Regina her consent (which she kinda did) is up in the air, Regina just stealing Belle’s heart is in the air with it.
And because Matt talks with Adam and Eddy every other episode…I’ll take his word for it that Belle gave Regina her consent.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Meanwhile With The Locksleys
Neighbor: So what’s your name?
Robin: I am Robin Hood, and this is my wife Maid Marian.
Neighbor: (Bursts out laughing) No seriously…what’s your name?
Robin: I am Robin Hood.
Maid Marian: And I am Maid Marian…what’s so funny?
Neighbor: Oooookkkkayyyyyy then….Nice meeting you! (Runs out of apartment)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
If Zelena was pregnant with Robin’s baby, that would be quite the shocker and would no doubt prolong the OQ drama so isn’t as unlikely as it sounds. Zelena being pregnant would really set the cat amongst the pigeons.I wouldn’t put it past Zelena to fake a pregnancy, and I’m expecting a false pregnancy storyline….it’s the one Soap Opera move Once hasn’t pulled yet!
Especially if as someone in the forums once stated, Zelena just calls a pregnancy to save her own life.
Zelena would be Once’s version of Chicago’s Roxie Hart with the “having a baby.”
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Sooo…apparently Regina did in fact have Belle’s consent! (It still should have been shown!)
Also of note in this week’s episode: Rumplestiltskin revealed (no, like really revealed) to Belle that his lifetime of misdeeds has turned his heart almost completely black, and that if he loses the last little bit of “red” in it, he will forever lose his ability to love. (Alas, to whom he actually was speaking was Belle as controlled by Regina, since the bookish beauty had allowed the Evil Queen to pluck out her heart in the name of a greater good.)
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See timestamp: Matt Webb Mitovich says: April 19, 2015 at 6:50 PM No, she had Belle’s consent. (The things you miss by “not watching.”)
http://tvline.com/2015/04/19/once-upon-a-time-season-4-emma-kills-cruella/
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
And I just don’t see the point in killing Cruella still…to promote Emma as evil, how when she was defending her son, something any sane right minded mother would have done. She did good even giving Cruella a choice to let Henry go!
I just hate Cruella’s dead….like…couldn’t they have just sent her to Regina’s Mental Asylum in Storybrooke…give her Sidney or Belle’s old room!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Maleficent is the last Queen of Darkness standing, and is still flawless!
Family lunch….how sweet!
Ready to see Wicked vs Evil Round 2! C’mon Regina, I’m rooting for you to really tear into Zelena first before any soft moments!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Disagree. I think Rumple is actually going to lose his Dark One powers, and Emma is going to be the new Dark One and the next Big Bad.
I like both theories. If Emma is the new Dark One does that automatically make Lily the new Savior? Is the Savior the counterbalance to the Dark One? I like the idea of Rumple being the Big Bad because he knows so much about everyone in Storybrooke. He knows everyone’s secrets. Everyone’s buttons. Rumple completely off the leash would be extremely ‘world-altering’.
The only way for Rumple to truly become unhinged is if Belle dies. That would place Rumple as the next season’s big bad…unless he loses all hope and tricks Emma into killing him so he can die in peace and reunite with Belle and Neal in the afterlife, but then the ratings for Season 5 would be soooooo sooo sooo low…it’d more than likely be only half a season.
while Barbara Hershey’s encore as Cora sets the stage for learning more about Regina’s past as well as “her present relationship with Robin,” Kitsis says.
“After what I had to do…the deals I had to make to get us this life, and you just wanna toss it away?” – Cora 1×18 The Stable Boy
Why am I getting the impression that Cora made a deal with the Author to keep Regina from ever meeting Robin Hood? If he wrote for Cruella to never kill again, whose to say he didn’t write for Regina to never meet Robin Hood.
This is also supposed to be the episode Lana teased a surprised shocker about Regina’s past.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
