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#BurgerQueen & #MacAttack!
#BurgerQueen & #MacAttack @joshdallas pic.twitter.com/Zl0F0SRgjZ
— Lana Parrilla (@LanaParrilla) October 30, 2014
[adrotate group="5"]"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
There’s one crack theory about Lily that I don’t believe has popped up in this thread yet. I know people won’t be big fans of this theory, but it’s still an interesting theory to consider as a possibility. And with this show, I certainly wouldn’t put it past the writers to do this sort of plot twist. This theory is that Lily is Regina and Robin Hood’s daughter, who they lost via a time portal. A reason for this being that Lily’s actress looks somewhat like a younger version of Regina. Plus, the tattoo might be a nod to Robin Hood, as he too has an iconic tattoo of his own. Also, if this is true, then Regina will get to experience the same thing Snow and Charming went through with Emma. While I would personally be annoyed with yet more time traveling and family plot twists, at the same time I like the idea of Regina finally getting to put herself in the Charmings’ shoes. Perhaps Regina would even finally start regretting her past actions and move forward on her road to redemption.
Hmmm…I read a theory that Lily was possibly Regina and Daniel’s daughter! But her being Robin and Regina’s daughter, I can dig that scenario too!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Can I get an A-FRICKING-MEN!
Also, there is a very important proposed holiday coming up this Saturday that I don’t want people to forget. National Bison Day. Admittedly I will be celebrating sans-bison, as Puck just arrived at Lauren’s this week, but there must be celebrations regardless! I demand it! Puck demands it!
Yeah, lets celebrate, and then the other saturday lets celebrate again, bc is my birthday, Puck also demands this.LOL *now goes away bc im making frie sweet potatos with cinammon and sugar, i didit yesterday, but then people appeared and together with family eat all, and i didnt ate anything.*
Happy Birthday!!!!! Well Pre Happy Birthday!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Good Lord….I just snapped on some people in the CS Thread for bashing Lana Parrilla and Regina…..some people are just unbelievable.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Was tipped on about the current discussion, and coming to read the last few posts has me like:
@Epona, I don’t normally come in this thread, but I heard there was some Regina/Lana Bashing going on, and I just had to see it for myself.Was going to give a very long comment, but decided not to. All I’ve got to say is that…Evil Regals have never, and will never turn on Regina or Lana Parrilla. SO….I don’t know what you and @Suraya read, but I can guarantee it wasn’t written by an Evil Regal. And if they say that they are an Evil Regal, but are dissing The Queen and Mama Regal behind their backs….do so tell them this:
Every Evil Regal on Twitter, Facebook, Blogs have cheered Regina on for taking a stand against Emma in the last episode, as we understand that she had a lot of anger and frustration that she needed to get off her chest, and we’d appreciate it if you cut her some slack. If I could…I’d list every tweet here from Evil Regals from sunday night, but it’d probably take up the whole page! So I’ll leave the link to this one reviewer who said everything any loyal Evil Regal would say!
http://io9.com/this-years-best-episode-of-once-upon-a-time-stays-in-th-1651515653
A little teaser from the reviewer:
“Yes, Emma you ruined Regina’s life. You are a (beep) person. Stop trying to force this woman, who is desperately trying to do the right thing even though it would be way easier for her to go all “Evil Queen” and kill everyone, to forgive you because YOU feel bad. Just feel bad. Just sit there and feel bad in your badness. Wallow in the badness, maybe cry a little.”
And for any other Evil Regal/Regina/Lana Bashers….this woman/character rakes in half of the viewings according to several polls Spoiler TV and others have had. And anyone who continues to slander Regina or Lana Parrilla’s name simply because they hate the character, or just simply doesn’t like that the show is making an effort to make a hero out of a villain who thanks to outside parties(Rumple and Cora), never stood a chance at being good in the past….then (look below)
I try to give the benefit of the doubt when people want to jump and bash Regina, but not Lana….like, just no! You can’t bash an actress whose just playing her part. Lana Parrilla is making the best of what they’re writing for her character, and Regina is just trying to find her own happy ending. Now that my little rants over…carry on dears.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I REFUSE to believe that Adam and Eddy were planning CaptainSwan from the beginning!
This clip just screams villain!!! Ohhhh….but as sure as Emma and Hook interact…it’s an instant must have! (sacrcasm with eye roll)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RWCOrJinL8
I’m sorry, but I just think SwanFire was always planned endgame till they changed their minds when they saw Hook. It’s just unusual that Emma goes from “I love you” to Neal in S2, to kissing Hook three days later in S3! That’s not how it works!!! It’s conspiracy I tell you! CONSPIRACY!!!!!
NO ONE knew Emma…like Mr. Cassady Knew Emma!
#SWANFIREQUEEN BRO OTP….Missed Opportunity….Very missed! Neal was almost Regina’s brother anyway, and Neal loved Emma….the Best Golden Trio since Harry Potter!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
And the reason she won’t accept FULL responsibility for her evil actions is because she knows that it’s not all her fault?
One can take full responsibility for something, can have full responsibility for something even if it is not much of their fault. It means you step up, take charge, and don’t try to explain away that bad was done, you accept, bad was done by you, you hurt someone, someone suffered because of you, and you regret it. Wallowing in self-pity is not regret in my book.
I agree. I think Regina can be redeemed but she does need to take responsibility and acknowledge that she did do bad things in her past but she can do her best to set things right with the people that she is still has the chance to set things right with. At the moment Regina is all whiny and all “the book made me a villain” No Regina YOUR ACTIONS made you a villain, the book only documented the past.
First of all…Regina has acknowledged her past sins, but she just has no regrets because it got her Henry. Had she had any regrets, everyone(including Belle and all Storybrooke) would probably be dead because she, Emma, and Snow would have been killed by Peter Pan.
Second of all, blame the writers for the Book storyline….
As for Belle and Marian because Regina needs to make it up to them: Belle- Regina can genuinely apologise to Belle without it being prompted by Regina wanting Belle’s help. Regina can also try not emotionally blackmailing Belle or demanding her assistance. Apology should not be a last resort. Regina could also offer her magical assistance so that Snowing are not constantly interrupting RumBelle to fix every problem they have. Marian- Regina can make it up to Marian by backing off from Robin completely and letting Marian and Robin live happily or at least let that relationship run its course without influencing its direction. Regina should also apologise to Marian. I think Regina should just stop moping about Robin and move on with her life, perhaps even finding someone who’s wife she didn’t murder/ nearly murder and who would put Regina first.I’m just going to set the record straight concerning these two women who people think Regina owes an apology of sorts. Actions speak louder than words. Regina did apologize to Belle, and knowing Adam and Eddy…that’s about all that’s gonna be done concerning that situation. As Regina said, that was in the past, and frankly while in the past…she did save her life from Captain Hook who was going to kill Belle had Regina not intervened. What else…oh yes…we can just count Regina making it up to Belle under all the times Regina’s saved her life along with the rest of Storybrooke from Peter Pan, as well as Zelena. Not to mention Regina saving Rumple from getting killed by Peter Pan, another point in making it up to Belle. And as well as helping to free Rumple from Zelena control, and Regina didn’t even keep the dagger when she could’ve…NO…she gave it to Belle! I think that just about covers the whole Belle fiasco….give Regina credit when credit is due to her. And before anyone mentions the whole locking Belle up thing…ummmmm….less we forget Dearies…Rumple not only locked Belle up himself, but also made her a house servant…sooo yeah.As for Marian…. am I even going to go down the line with this one? Okay…Look people! Robin Hood himself doesn’t love Marian anymore! The End! He’s with her solely due to his marriage vow, nothing more! He does NOT love her anymore…he Loves Regina! Regina did back off! It was Robin who came to her for help with Marian….we didn’t see not once Regina stalking Robin, or luring him back to her! She hadn’t even spoken to Robin since that last talk in 4×01 until 4×03, which was about a week later! So Regina did back off! And before anyone brings up the book, we have no clue what she intends to ask of the book! It’s not been confirmed she’s asked for Robin Hood, it may be to forget Robin Hood thus releasing her from the love she has so that he can try(miserably fail) to make things work with Marian, a woman whose been proven to longer be his true love, if she even was in the first place! And as for making it up to Marian…ummm…how many times do you have to save a woman’s life to make it up to her? Regina’s saved her more times than the one time she killed her, it’s made up! Done!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I agree, there are some things the two could bond over, and it is in Emma’s character to reach out, unlike Regina, whose character it is to leash out, so makes even sense, if Emma is the one trying harder to make it work than Regina does at the moment. Some see no way for a friendship between Emma and Regina seeing that what Regina did in the past (killed Emma’s grandfather, tried to kill her mother multiple times, Emma saw even how Regina put Snow on the stake and burnt her, luckily Snow could escape thanks to some dark pixie she had, and Regina tried to kill Emma, and all for no good reason) – why should the victim of a bully befriend her tormentor? But for some, and I am one of them, the issue is not so much if there is a friendship eventually possible at some point and eventually developing, it is quite simple Emma saying, she wants to be friends with Regina. I can only take the flashback with Lily as an attempt to build up a parallel for Emma’s development, there she turns her back, walks away, here in the present time with Regina she stays and reaches out, but the problem is, Lily and Regina are very different people, and what they did to Emma are very different things, the parallel doesn’t work. Regina is far from redeemed, still struggles to admit her responsibility for the evil she did, doesn’t get yet, that it’s up to her to find happiness and not the doing of any kid, lover or higher power, she might be at a point where it would be good if there is someone not giving up on her, but that doesn’t mean to me the necessity of that someone wishing to be friends with her.Woo…okay @Myril…..1. There is a thing called forgive and forget….so I think that’s really what Emma and the Charmings have done for Regina. 3×18 was shown to us as being the moment between Regina and Snow where they basically say “Look, I did my thing…you did yours. It’s over, it’s done…cut print moving on.” And from that moment forward…they really became a family! No matter who doesn’t want to accept that the Charmings have forgiven Regina for her past transgressions against them, and likewise with Regina with Snow….it happened! Regina even went into full MamaBear mode against Cora for trying to hurt Snow White…not to mention she also saved the life of not only everyone in Storybrooke, as well as her step-grandson Baby Snowflake from her wicked sister.They are a family…so the past is just in the past now. If they keep turning back to look at the last page of the story, they can never move on from what the future may hold for them. So Regina is no longer a bully now, she was in the past, but not anymore. The only reason she was being harsh with Emma was because she had to get all the frustration and anger out of her system….and although she won’t verbally tell Emma that she cares for her, she shows it in another way. “Emma wait…I don’t want to kill you.” – Regina. That is Regina’s way of saying….”Okay…now we’re good.” Complex woman she is, but Emma understood what she was really saying.2. There were very clear parallels with the situation between Regina and Lily. For Emma, it’s about who she can trust. Lily boldly lied to Emma, and swore to her that they’d run away together, thus giving Emma false hope that crushed her when she learned the truth….which is why Emma just walked away from the situation. Regina, on the other hand, told Emma up front that she had no intentions of being friends with her(take note that she was taking out the anger and frustration at this point), and she never lied or gave Emma false hope. And before anyone brings up Sidney, she didn’t lie because Emma never asked about Sidney, so Regina just withheld the info. So we just have lying Lily, and tough love giving Regina…one lied to Emma, the other didn’t. And I applaud Emma for acknowledging the fact that although she saved a life, she disrupted Regina’s happiness…and she knows that Regina could really use a friend at the moment.3 Far from redeemed…Far from redeemed!!! Uhhh….have we forgotten the entire Season 3 Arc???? Who defeated Pan in NL, saved Rumplestilskin, Henry, and the Charmings? Who willingly sacrificed her happy ending to save the very people she cursed, as well as give her son and his bio mom false happy memories(more than likely her own)? Who defeated the Wicked Witch of the West, thus saving her family and all of Storybrooke?????? Whose not only saved countless times, but now is trying to find a way to save her soul mate’s wife, while knowing that in doing so…she’ll be losing her final chance at true love??????And the reason she won’t accept FULL responsibility for her evil actions is because she knows that it’s not all her fault? Growing up with a physically, mentally, and emotionally abusive mother as well as a weak father who did nothing to stop it, had a mass effect on Regina. Losing Daniel, and being forced to marry a man thrice her age who only treated her like a trophy wife, and kept her prisoner in his kingdom, also mothering the child who sold you out doesn’t help much either. Oh, and not to mention having a Manipulative Imp whisper dark evil things in your ear which grows the anger and hate in your heart, and teaching you every dark magic and trick her knows, thus polluting you even further! All of that combined….Created the Evil Queen. It wasn’t just some over night transition, that was a very long build up since her birth! So not taking away the responsibility that does go to her, some percentage rightfully goes to the people who created her. And that goes for every other “misunderstood” Once Villain.Peter Pan created Rumpelstilskin who created The Queen of Hearts, The Wicked Witch of the West, and The Evil Queen. All of it leads back to Peter Pan, so if you need someone to just point the finger at, and place the blame….put it on Pan!"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I’ve come to the conclusion that Adam and Eddy are depending solely on ships to save their show now because it’s lost it’s family touch it once had in S1 and S2, where we actually had our characters discuss their past and pain with one another. There aren’t scenes anymore like when Regina explained to Henry how she didn’t love very well, and allowed him to go stay with Charming in 2×02, or Emma taking Henry out to coffee in S1….and personally….it seemed to me that Emma had a slightly easier relationship with Mary Margret in S1 than she does now with Snow, I know their trying the whole mother/daughter thing, but it just seems like she’s trying to force herself a little….like Snow and Charming waiting up till late morning hours for their thirty year old daughter to come home.
But like I said in another Thread….this was Regina’s episode to vent and scream, and get all her building frustration out on Emma. And at the end of the episode, we were shown that Regina took a step forward in getting over this whole situation, and starting to forgive Emma. Lana Parrilla even said that, Adam and Eddy are really setting up a sisterly relationship between Emma and Regina, which would parallel the Elsa and Anna sisterhood. I know…just another weird connection because Regina is really Emma’s Grandmother through marriage….but a type of sisterhood is where they’re heading for.
I actually applauded Emma this episode…she genuinely felt remorse for disrupting Regina’s HEA….and although she won’t apologize for saving a life, she understands the part she played in ruining Regina’s happiness. Something Pre 3×18 Snow never would admit…..I guess the apple did fall farther from the tree. 🙂
But Elizabeth Mitchell…..brilliant…just brilliant. That is all.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
This song just sums up this entire moment to me….
Barbra Streisand The Way We Were-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yrd6caXygw
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
