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Snowing represents the loved up, can’t live without each other aspect
Rumbelle represents the loving someone even their flaws aspect
SwanFire represents the innocent first love aspect.
OutlawQueen represents the love after death aspect
CaptainSwan represents the second chance aspect
POM said it best!!
[adrotate group="5"]"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Just learned….that is Marian and Robin story in Henry’s Fairy Tale Book!
Regina: She needs to be removed!
Look at the book: It's Robin and Marian story! That's why Regina said: She needs to be removed! Oh GOD! #OutlawQueen pic.twitter.com/iDuO5NCYzJ
— Gisele 🐺🤏 (@Gi_Enigma) September 9, 2014
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
ROFL AT THIS CAPTION!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Again….Emma has no legal rights to Henry Mills. Regina, although few Oncers find her adoption to still be illegal, has those rights because just as there are documents for Emma’s non parental rights, somewhere in Boston, the Agency has documents of Regina adopting Henry. So….by law….Henry is Regina’s son.
So let’s see if I understand this. Regina, the Evil Queen of another land that is not accessible by normal methods, casts a Dark Curse that creates a town out of thin air and apparently gives everyone “legal” and “real” identification that you would find for any other citizen in America; uses Mr. Gold’s ability to cut through Red Tape and work the system to get herself a child, all under the radar, and that’s all 100% legal and fine. But when Regina casts the counter curse and grants Emma and Henry memories of the same so called real life, complete with apparently enough money to buy an apartment in New York City, and provides documentation including birth certificate, SS#, doctor records of vaccines, ect–all of which is required for Emma to buy an apartment or have a job or Henry to go to school–that’s not legal and binding and real? And then Snow and Charming casts some version of the Dark Curse–which is not the same as the original given that everyone remembers who they are and are not separated from their loved ones–and restore SB at least in looks, suddenly the legality of Emma’s rights are washed asunder? Even though the real world was not touched by Snow and Charming’s counter-counter-whaever-the-heck curse, thus why SB could exist simultaneously while Emma and Henry were living in New York–with job, apartment, and schooling? At this stage in the game, in other words, both Regina and Emma have the same legal rights to Henry, both of which were created by magic and not through any sort of American recognizable legal channels.
In a sense…all of that…yes RG! It’s just like magic! 😛
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Ummmmmmm……whew….ok! Here’s the kicker to that, what Regina created was Storybrooke! When she transported everyone back to the EF, yes SB disappeared. But Storybrooke was originally sealed within the Dark Curse, and was then resealed back into the Dark Curse. When the Dark Curse was recast, the SAME Storybrooke appeared, with everything back as it was. All the events that occurred in SB, remains there. SO all of those documents are still in Storybrooke, SO Regina still has legal rights to Henry! And to further add onto this….Emma still has NO legal rights to Henry! She signed over ALL parental rights, so in the eyes of the law, she is a stranger to Henry Mills!
I’m sorry, but what proof is there for any of that? There were plenty of new people who weren’t in Storybrooke the first time. Clearly the curse changed, or Aurora, Zelena, and whoever else wouldn’t have come through–or if they had, they would’ve been homeless since we saw in season one that there weren’t any empty homes or apartments in the original Storybrooke. And the adoption documents weren’t ever part of the curse; Rumple had those drawn up later. So why would they magically come back even if everything else that was part of the creation of Storybrooke did? Also worth noting–it’s not as though Regina wrote the curse herself; Rumple did and she just cast it. Snow cast the one that created the current Storybrooke. And none of that negates the fact that due to their new lives and new memories, at the very least there would be two sets of legal paperwork for Henry, just like he and Emma have two sets of memories. If you’re so sure Regina’s paperwork was perfect and 100% legit for the first Storybrooke, then it stands to reason that it would be for Henry and Emma’s new life as well. There are lots of other issues that would come into play as well from an ethics standpoint, but from a purely legal (and purely hypothetical) standpoint? Either Regina has no legal right to Henry (likely since the entire existence of the first Storybrooke was negated) or there are at least two (perfectly legitimate according to your theory) sets of records for Henry. Also, how on earth is any of this Henry’s fault? He’s one of the most innocent victims in this whole mess. Editing to add: Sorry for re-stating what RG and PoM had already said above…I started writing before either of them had posted; it took me a while to finish!
Now….how Emma managed to do all of that….I will never know! Adam and Eddy do need to give some clarification on who has the rights to Henry Mills. But….Emma having documents….I don’t see how! Emma gave birth at a US Hospital, and signed over her parental rights. Somewhere in the US, those documents still exist, and someone has them. Emma has no legal rights to Henry, so Adam and Eddy had a major writing flaw with that one, because she should not have been able to enroll him anywhere in school, unless behind the scenes, Regina whipped up some magical falsified documents, and gave them to Emma right before she left, which permitted her to do so.
Again….Emma has no legal rights to Henry Mills. Regina, although few Oncers find her adoption to still be illegal, has those rights because just as there are documents for Emma’s non parental rights, somewhere in Boston, the Agency has documents of Regina adopting Henry. So….by law….Henry is Regina’s son.
And for the final time….Storybrooke was more than likely sealed back into the Dark Curse! And when Snow cast it, it brought Storybrooke and everything in it back! Which means, documents and all!
And another thing…why are we all saying “Here’s The Kicker To that?” 😛 Just noticed that…lol
@TheWatcher is right…we should stop fighting, well, I don’t know if we were fighting….just a friendly disagreement. But Henry can’t have both, not really. If he decides to spend weekends with one person, and whole week days with the other, someone’s going to end up being hurt. Regina, more so than Emma, as Regina is still getting used to not having her son around as much, when Emma might be a bit more cooler with it, having only been in the boy’s life for two years. Not to downplay Emma’s hurt or anything, just her two years compared to Regina’s ten….yeah, that’s a major difference.But who knows….when all is said and done! Instead of fighting over who gets to keep Henry, Regina and Emma might be arguing over who needs to keep Henry. Emma and Hook….Regina and Robin….the adults are gonna want some alone time! 😛
—-When Emma negotiates with Regina about who needs to get Henry——
https://twitter.com/Alodis/status/500476946854449153
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
BTS Pic of Anna (Either 4×05 or 4×06 Family Business)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
But it would explain why Elsa is blonde and has ice powers, and Anna doesn’t.
The Original Ice Queen story is about the Ice Queen taking some boy, and some girl tracks him down. And the original Frozen Concept Plot in the early stages was about Elsa being an evil Ice Queen who took a soldier hostage who melted her frozen heart.
I can see the Original Ice Queen having a fling with the King, having Elsa….the King steals Elsa away, and meets Anna’s mother, marries her, has Anna. And Boom! Elsa and Anna are half sisters, with different moms. It would explain why a terrible storm “all of a sudden” occurred when the King and Queen have to seek out Elsa’s mother, the original Ice Queen, who in a rage sent the storm that killed the King and Queen.
It makes a lot of sense to me…and would explain sooo much!
Either that, or the Ice Queen has no relations to Elsa whatsoever, and just jealous that Elsa is more powerful. So the Ice Queen made a deal with Rumple to imprison Elsa in the urn.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Wait a minute! But what if….Elsa and Anna don’t share the same mother????? The same father, but different mothers! Elizabeth Mitchell, The Ice Queen is Elsa’s biological mother!!! It would explain why Elsa has ice powers, and Anna doesn’t!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
A and E said that they will be telling Will’s story on OUAT in a way that it doesn’t necessitate people having watched OUATWL. (which means I greatly fear for Anastasia)
Except they have blatantly stated they will address Will’s relationship with Robin, which yes I imagine casuals would still understand because he is supposed to be Will Scarlet. However, to see the actual flashback with Will and Robin requires watching Wonderland, at least that episode.
GET READY FOR #HOODBROTHERS!!! 😛
It’s in Robin Hood Legend, that Will Scarlett is Robin Hood’s half brother!
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003912/quotes
Excerpt From Robin Hood Movie:
Robin Hood: You were to use this information to get close to me and then kill me, isn’t that right, Will? What are your intentions?
Will Scarlett: Well, that depends on you Locksley. I’ve never trusted you, that’s no secret. What I wanna know is, is are you gonna finish what you started? I want to know if he’s gonna turn and run like the spoiled little rich boy I always took him for.
Robin Hood: Did I wrong you in another life, Will Scarlett? Where does this intolerable hatred for me come from?
Will Scarlett: From knowing that… that our father loved you more than me.
Robin Hood: Our father?
Will Scarlett: We are brothers, Robin of Locksley. I am the son of the woman who replaced your dead mother for a time.
Robin Hood: It’s a lie!
Will Scarlett: It was your anger that drove them apart! It’s not a lie! You ruined my life! I have more reason to hate you than anyone. Yet I found myself daring to believe in you. And what I want to know brother, is will you stay with us and finish what you started?"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I just want to reiterate one point: none of this matters. Henry and Henry’s opinion matter more than who has “legal” or “magical” or “the most right” to him. Henry wants to be with both his mothers and the town and the family are situated in way that makes this incredibly workable. And that’s what this needs to be about: what is best for Henry and his emotional and developmental well being.
I know! Well…Henry….hmmm….he just now got back on my good side in Season 3B! I’m subject to flip back to disliking Henry at any moment if he goes back to his S1 & S2 ways.
All I’m saying is…Emma’s whole “Mother Knows Best” Act in Season 3B irked me so much! Maybe she won’t be like that anymore….it was her acting as if she was solely Henry’s mother, and I know what’s best, and I’m taking Henry back to NYC persona that I did not care for, when she’s really been in his life for two years. That’s all I’m saying! At the end of the day…Emma did sweep back in town, and stole her son back.
I will admit that Regina acting out of fear of losing him did push him further in Emma’s direction. When she was making an effort to turn around, Emma & the Charmings took the memories of a DOG instead of going through Regina’s own memories, and instantly put her on the guilty list. And that whole “Emma doesn’t have to run anything by you anymore.” and “No he’s not, He’s my son!” didn’t help the situation at all.
For once….I’d like a real moment where Emma confesses that Regina is Henry’s mother, who raised Henry, and did a heck of a great job at it. And I’d love for Regina to confess that Emma is Henry’s birth mother, and that it’s best for their son to have both of them in their lives. It’s a matter of understanding their place. Let’s just toss out labels, like adoptive and birth, and just agree….they’re both his mothers!
Do I along with many other Evil Regals believe Henry should go back home with Regina, yes, that’s his home. He grew up there, he can spend the entire day with Emma if he wants to! Even spend the night over Emma’s place on the weekends, but 108 Mifflin Street is his home! My best friend had twins, whose father was never in their life! After getting his life together, the dad now wants to be a part of his kids life, and takes them out at times, spends loads of time with them, but they come back home to their mother at the end of the day. In real life…that’s kind of how it works.
@EPONA Quote:But honestly all of that doesn’t even matter, because here’s the kicker: the original Storybrooke Regina created was destroyed when Pan re-cast the curse. Gone, as though it had never existed, even in Henry and Emma’s memories. It never existed, so in the current state of affairs, there would never have been any record of Regina having legally adopted Henry. Instead, there would be paper trails and proof of Emma having raised Henry since he was a baby. And since Henry wasn’t part of the most recent curse (the one that re-created Storybrooke), there wouldn’t have been any new fake records for him either. So when you take that into account, it’s Regina who, in the current situation, has no legal rights to Henry whatsoever.
@WickedRegal’s Response:Ummmmmmm……whew….ok! Here’s the kicker to that, what Regina created was Storybrooke! When she transported everyone back to the EF, yes SB disappeared. But Storybrooke was originally sealed within the Dark Curse, and was then resealed back into the Dark Curse. When the Dark Curse was recast, the SAME Storybrooke appeared, with everything back as it was. All the events that occurred in SB, remains there. SO all of those documents are still in Storybrooke, SO Regina still has legal rights to Henry!
And to further add onto this….Emma still has NO legal rights to Henry! She signed over ALL parental rights, so in the eyes of the law, she is a stranger to Henry Mills!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
