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  • June 23, 2014 at 4:38 am in reply to: Regina Mills/Evil Queen Character Analysis #275055
    WickedRegal
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    That explanation….God!! @Myril, can I please just hug you for that! That was a brilliant analysis! A lot of things that you just said, I agree with! Just like I wish, ohhhh I wish they had started the Outlaw Queen relationship in either NL or in the year before, as a sort of build up to their love, but Outlaw Queens settled with the “s” tension and the sassiness/flirtation in EF, but I agree that the possibility of Regina having light magic should have been hinted a bit early on…heck she could have used it to defeat Pan, giving the viewers a glimpse at the possibility so it wouldn’t come as such a shock when Regina defeated Zelena. But then there was Plot so Zelena couldn’t know Regina had light magic.

    I hope…I just hope Regina doesn’t become “Hero” only type of Queen because that would get boring, she’d become another Charming, and that would be a slap in the face to the Evil Regals. The “Evil” side of Regina is what saved everyone, and got them out of NL, and helped them survive that one year in EF. I feel that the writers need to show that one Hero, who will do both good and bad things to get results…that person is Regina, the Bad Cop of her family. The cop who gets results! It would show that a once villain can be both good and bad. Doing bad things in the name of good should be how Regina operate now. The Charmings can’t torture people for info…let Regina and Rumple handle that!

    And as for the Writers…they’ve sparked a new flame in me. Lana Parrilla confirmed that she had to fight the Executive Producers for Henry and Regina’s relationship, meaning that there is a possibility Adam and Eddy would have just disregard Regina’s maternal relations to Henry….so thank god that Lana Parrilla fought for that!

    -I seriously now question Adam and Eddy….

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    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 23, 2014 at 1:52 am in reply to: Regina Mills/Evil Queen Character Analysis #275051
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    Regina is responsible for her own doings, no doubt there, but that doesn’t reduce the evil Rumple did to her either. Rumple needed Regina desperate, without (true) love, without support system, any friends, anything that could stop her eventually from casting the Dark Curse, only her father was left as source of love and someone to love, an ingredient needed to cast the curse. Rumple intervened in Regina’s life whenever he had to to keep her on track of her own damnation. He manipulated Jefferson and Frankenstein to give her hope to only take the hope away and make her more hurt and desperate. Right, Rumple never asked her to kill the villagers or Graham (but the unicorn, so who knows what else he would have done or did to teach her what she needed to be his tool), but Rumple created the monster, that had all the means and no scruple to kill. He came and reminded her of the Dark Curse, after he had made sure, that Regina couldn’t attack Snowings in the Enchanted Forest. It was not just a spark, it was more, he kept the fire burning.

    What I’ve been trying to say for the longest! Though Regina may have pulled the trigger on a few of her decisions, Rumple loaded the gun, and placed it in her hands. He set out before Regina was even conceived to make her a monster, and would snuff out anything that could possibly keep her pure. Cora and Snow set Regina on the path of darkness, and Rumple led her down it to the end where she cast his curse, and he’d be damned if she didn’t!

    If Regina though had any kind of healthy self-esteem and more of a brain, she would at least after the curse have realized, who had manipulated her and everybody else and regretted and stopped blaming and hurting Snowings and others. She would have given it thought, how to make the one truly responsible for her sufferings pay and stopped him from doing more, protect her son from his grandfather. That could have been an Evil Queen to enjoy watching, not the whiny spineless wreck of an abused woman they turned her into. We saw a glimpse of what could have been when Regina fought Pan. Instead they serve us Regina as some undeserved hero, let her have light powers without her having to work for it. Oh, nice, she experienced true love with Henry, what a gift, but not an ounce of effort on her side, Henry just loves her regardless. Henry the cardboard version of a child, no depth there, no depth of emotions to work with on either side.

    Lana Parrilla gave a very detailed analysis on how Adam and Eddy wrote Regina….Regina basically snapped in the mind. And losing any chance of happiness, she used the darkness introduced to her to cloud her heart and her judgment, thus making her blind to the reality of a lot of things. Now I do agree that Post Curse Regina should have really laid into Rumple….but the fact that Rumple is Henry’s grandfather is what I believe stopped her, and Henry is strict on his family. As for the light powers…Regina really did have to work for them. She had to overcome the fear of possibly losing to her sister, overcome the fears of opening herself up to love, and finally get Henry to remember her. Lana confirmed that by Regina breaking the Dark Curse, and her loving Robin and Henry granted her light powers. True Love wasn’t born…it was made.

     The writers let Regina shine without her having to work for it – and that is what some people find by now annoying. Turning meanwhile Snow into Regina’s cheerleader while Snow turns her back on her daughter is not helping Regina’s cause. Regina could have been great and furious, evil in her pursue of taking revenge on Rumple, that could have been a story arc over seasons, while both and the town were distracted and kept busy by other villains, telling more of the background, adding depth to the characters, but shimmering through here and there, little moments showing, that Regina is plotting her revenge, while Rumple is working on his defense. The Regina we have now is rather boring, just another whiny wannabe villain with sob background story. They have a chance with Marian and with bringing in Frozen to still make something of it, although I have a bad feeling.

    Yeah….some of the people who are finding S3 Hero Regina annoying are ones who wanted Emma to break the curse, and save the day. The others are just wondering what made Regina suddenly a Hero? I personally believe Regina earned every heroic moment in S3, because she’s evolved in such a way to where she’s not just the Evil Queen…she’s just The Queen. Whiny…wannabe…HA! This is the Evil Queen we’re talking about…who is very Bold and Audacious as a handsome thief once said. The Charmings wouldn’t have survived one hour in Neverland without Regina, and SB would more than likely be destroyed if it wasn’t for Regina. Because Zelena would have still taken Emma’s magic, leaving everyone defenseless. And as Rumple and Regina once agreed…they are two of the most powerful sorcerers in the land, and Rumple was being controlled…Regina was the only one who stood a chance at defeating Zelena. Therefore…Regina is a hero.

    Photo: THIS!!

     

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 23, 2014 at 1:33 am in reply to: Prince James (Charming)/David #275049
    WickedRegal
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    Ok….David! Yeah, David is the one Charming that I can tolerate the most, and actually like the most! I view him as being a man who was caught in a very ugly crossfire, but rose to the challenge. So out of all the Charmings, I have most respect for David. Now his sporadic stupidity is one of his few downfalls, along with his everlasting “I will always find you”, and his occasional judgmental qualities.

    But overall, Charming is the one Charming who I feel Rumple and Regina feel more comfortable being around, I guess because he’s never done anything to personally offend either of them. Though I do have one suggestion for David….lose the sword, dude. I believe guns would be more effective for him to use, well not on magical beings as they could just poof it away as Cora did, but for regular SB people. But overall…I think David’s a pretty cool Charming.

    What I hope for S4 Charming is to just be a great dad to Neal, and for his bond with Emma to continue to grow. And plus…being cooped up with Snow White all the time, David needs some time to just hang out with the guys. Like go to the Rabbit Hole with Killian, Rumple, and Robin, and play pool, or play cards. I think it’d be nice to see the couples separate and hang out with their own gender for a boys or girls night out.

    And as for Snowing whose apparently found their happily ever after…I think an issue would actually make them a more likeable couple. I mean Snowing is just too perfect, and many Oncers on tumblr, twitter, facebook find Snowing to actually be a little boring because we haven’t had anything to come against them in a while, even so much as an argument as to what to paint the bathroom wall would be good rather than just have them snuggling on the couch all day. They’ve become in a sense the Disney Cartoon Snow and Charming…and perhaps what they need is a new adventure.

    And if I had to grade David as a character….I’d give him a B+! 🙂

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 22, 2014 at 3:38 pm in reply to: Once upon a Time Movie Mashups #275002
    WickedRegal
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    The Proposal- (Based on the 2009 The Proposal)

    The plot centers on a Canadian woman, Regina Mills, who learns that she may face deportation charges because of her expired visa. Determined to retain her position as executive chief, Mills convinces her assistant, Robin Locksley, to temporarily act as her fiancé. Initially planning on resuming their lives after Mills resolves her visa issues, they appear to abandon those plans as their relationship intensifies.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 22, 2014 at 3:08 pm in reply to: Fairytales II in Paris #274993
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    https://twitter.com/Xivent/status/480693341957677056

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 22, 2014 at 2:42 pm in reply to: Fairytales II in Paris #274990
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    Lana and Emilie Have Robbed Cinderella 😛

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    June 22, 2014 at 2:35 pm in reply to: Fairytales II in Paris #274989
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    Lana’s Dance

    Photo: THIS!!Photo: A happy couple <3 hahaha #OutlawQueenPhoto: Dont worry Regina he only love's you :PPhoto: Awesomeee!!

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 22, 2014 at 4:06 am in reply to: Adam Tweets for S4 #274907
    WickedRegal
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    I’m proud of her…a little make up, and they can make her look like she’s 28-32. Good job Anna Faith!!! Wish you luck!

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 21, 2014 at 11:36 pm in reply to: Out in Storybrooke: Who should have a Queery Tale romance? #274876
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    Basically telling a marginalised person to “Let it go” especially when you’re the one who caused them upset is really messed up. Policing the upset of minorities is not your business. ANd importantly – when you’re talking about queer issues – listen to queer people! I can’t stress this enough. I just got taken out for drinks by two sex workers and it was amazing how humnaising it was listening to them talking about work etc. and how very human they were. All too often they are spoken over, portrayed as victims, unsafe around kids, whatevers, when they’re in many ways just like everyone else, and the ways in which they aren’t are okay too. It’s really really harmful and dehumanising when straight/cis people talk over our issues and the things that affect us. Straight/cis people have a louder voice than us and you have to be responsible than that. Erasing our problems is not being responsible, it’s really awful and people need to take responsibility for it. They’re not “Issues”, they’re Issues, full stop, and it’s not up for you to decide that when you’re not affected by or educated on the issue at hand.

    You know what…I’m so done with this conversation, it doesn’t make any sense. You want to start an argument about something from two weeks ago, that I initially apologized for. And the reason they were in quotations is because…what was hurtful about what I said? You know what…don’t even bother answering because we don’t see eye to eye on this topic.

    Am I gonna take responsibility for something that came across to you, as I may have not meant to come across in that way, no, I won’t. Am I gonna apologize for a third time just to suit your hurt feelings, when I already apologized to the thread as a whole…no. The only person who I will apologize to for a third time is @Felie, who took the time to explain your point of view without being rude about it. Don’t get me wrong @Crystal Princess, you are a great spokesperson for this campaign, and I wish you the best of luck. I just personally don’t have the patience nor the time to argue something that should have never started as an argument with a simple question I asked, especially when it was TWO weeks ago.

    Now @RumplesGirl may count this as being rude, but this is the nicest way I can say these things without having to explode. Now if you all want, everyone can continue the @WickedRegal is being mean, disrespectful, rude, insensitive, prejudice, which is really all untrue as I have not been mean, disrespectful, rude, or insensitive in many years. I let that “Bully” side of me go when I graduated college, and has only let “Bully Liza” out of me when it becomes absolutely necessary. And as I’ve told you, I was a Bully to the Bullies, which means I defended Every outcast. Like God…if you all think I’m being rude, mean, and insensitive now, you all would have hated the (beep) I was back in the day!

    But enough about that…I’m making the call to END a debate that I unintentionally started, so @Crystal Princess, this thread of yours can resume whatever was happening before I asked my question. CUT…PRINT….AND MOVING ON!!!!!

    Now that that’s off my chest…continue this storm if you want, it won’t bother me anyway.

     

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    June 21, 2014 at 4:23 pm in reply to: Out in Storybrooke: Who should have a Queery Tale romance? #274812
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    Not necessarily true, because every human has a First Impression. And that First Impression will make you decide whether he/she is gay, straight, or bi….it’s human nature really. It’s nothing that can be escaped. Although Society has enlarged it into such a big deal, judgement with opinion is within every human.

    The first thing that comes to mind isn’t always, oh okay they’re straight, it could be, oh okay they’re gay. Or any other sexual there is long as it isn’t classified as immoral or disgraceful such as bestiality or incest. First Impressions are forever, and no speech, march, explanation will change that. Let straight be straight, let bi be bi, and let gay be gay. And I think it’s best if all parties learn to accept whatever happens because if Disney came out tomorrow and said, hey you were right, Elsa is a lesbian. Straight people will just have to live with it. Just as Gay people would have to live with Disney coming out saying, they were wrong, Elsa has/or is about to have a boyfriend!

    Knowing Disney as being a kids company…I’d highly doubt they’d risk the Elsa/lesbian thing being known, but they settled with giving you hints and subtext to read into it, and settle with it. That is wrong on some level, but it’s also right on some level. Because one thing about it, if a four year old kid woke up in the morning and said, “Mom, I wanna be gay because Elsa was gay,” the parent would be the first one to blame Disney! And then Disney profits would gradually decrease, till they are a nonexistent company…it’s sad but it’s also the truth.

    Just like Adam and Eddy….they really got some bad responses for turning Mulan into a lesbian(not that I was that much surprised by that…I kinda always figured Mulan was a lesbian on the Disney cartoon). And we all know how much Frozen is beloved, while at the same time is Once Upon A Time. If one screw up(not saying Elsa being a lesbian is a screw up before anyone comments) or what is viewed to be a screw up, people will view this as tarnishing Frozen in a sense. Again…very bad to think about, but kids are also watching Once Upon A Time. And many Christians who saw Frozen, and deemed it “wicked” will be the very same Christians watching Once Upon A Time to see their interpretation of the character of Elsa.

    Elsa is a great role model for anyone, be it straight or gay, and I have no clue on who loves her most. But in the end, majority rules, and it’s taking the side which won’t hurt their show, or reputation the most is the side Adam and Eddy will more than likely take. So if you feel that Elsa is a great spokesperson for LGBT, don’t just discuss it, put it out there! Let Adam and Eddy know how you feel! Because trust me, there are many Oncers right now putting it out there that Elsa is straight, and more than likely telling Adam and Eddy all about their “straight” Elsa ships.

    Now I’ve got some housework to get done before my kids get home, so talk to you all later. May the best side win…

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

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