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From what I understand, Ingrid was originally going to form her new ‘family’ unit with both of her biological nieces, ruling out the idea that she’s looking only for people with magic.
Originally she thought Anna might do, but Anna is “the odd woman out” because she doesn’t have magic.
Hmm. Thanks for the clarification, because, like I said, I haven’t seen the episode yet.
Based just on the way Helga was described in casting sides, I don’t think she had magic, but we’ll learn for sure next week.
I would like to know who, exactly, made the prophecy about Emma forming one-third of Ingrid’s new ‘family’, so hopefully that’s something that we won’t have to wait too long to discover.
[adrotate group="5"]From what I understand, Ingrid was originally going to form her new ‘family’ unit with both of her biological nieces, ruling out the idea that she’s looking only for people with magic.
I haven’t seen the episode yet, but it was fairly obvious to me just from reading some recaps that somebody prophesied that Emma will form one-third of Ingrid’s new ‘family’, not that she’s somehow Ingrid’s biological sister Helga reincarnated.
I love OUaT because of the following:
* The serialization
* The incredibly imaginative ways in which the show takes familiar stories and shakes them up
* The complicated and complex character relationships
Question: What was Emma doing in Hopkins, Minnesota in 1998? She was in the foster care system in Boston, Massachusetts as a baby. So how did she end up in Middle America as a teenager? Had she run away from Massachusetts to Minnesota? If Emma was born in 1984 then she was only 14 in 1998. Was Emma Swan in the foster care of Minnesota under the watchful eye of the Snow Queen when she met Lily? Or did she enter the care of the Snow Queen after she met Lily? For some reason, Emma clearly remembers Lily but not the Snow Queen. Yet, the cam corder reveals that Emma was roughly the same sage when she met Lily as she was when she was in the care of the Snow Queen.
She said she hopped on a bus and ran away. It was after she saw the little girl get adopted (we saw that in 321). I think Emma forgot her whole time with the SQ; the van that took her away from the house they broke into probably took her to the SQ’s.
A point of clarification: Emma didn’t run away from her Boston group home until 3 years (give or take) after the incident she references (it happened when she was 11, and she’s 15 when she meets Lily).
A second point of clarification: Emma and August came out of the wardrobe in Maine, suggesting that the reason she ended up in the Massachusetts foster care system is because her adoptive parents – the Swans – resided there.
Question: If things like Emma’s flower tattoo and Mr. Gold’s mood rings were planned since early on back in season 1, then does that mean the writers always meant to include (1) Lily (whose star birthmark seems to have inspired Emma’s flower power tattoo) and (2) The Snow Queen (not Frozen, since that had yet to be release, but the original Hans Christian Anderson story)?
Good question. Given comments A&E have made in the past, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to learn that the Snow Queen is a fairytale that they always planned on using, but were simply waiting until the right time to bring into play.
Also, given the context of the scene in which we found out what Emma’s connection to the Snow Queen actually is, it seems far more likely that she (the Snow Queen) was the matron of a group home, which would only make her a ‘foster mother’ for Emma in the most broad sense
Given the way the Snow Queen reacted to seeing Emma, and the image of Emma and the SQ in the shop all those years ago obviously heated, I’m going to guess that it’s more than just the broad sense. I think there was a real mother/daughter bond between them.
Emma and the Snow Queen having a mother/daughter-type relationship wouldn’t change the fact that the SQ appears to have been the matron of a group home for multiple children in the foster care system rather than someone who took Emma and/or one or two other kids into her own home and raised them in a traditional family environment for a while (which is what it would take for her to have been a ‘foster mother’ for Emma in the literal sense of the term).
Being the matron of a group home would “technically” make the Snow Queen a ‘foster mother’ for Emma, but the term wouldn’t carry the same meaning that is typically conveyed by its usage.
Emma and Elsa were ‘cousins’ (!?): Emma-DQ-Elsa’s mother-Elsa & Anna
Fostering someone doesn’t make that person related to you by blood. The only way Emma would be related to Elsa and Anna is if she’d been legally adopted by the Snow Queen/Sarah Fisher (assuming, of course, that the Snow Queen was telling Elsa the truth about being her and Anna’s Aunt).
Also, given the context of the scene in which we found out what Emma’s connection to the Snow Queen actually is, it seems far more likely that she (the Snow Queen) was the matron of a group home, which would only make her a ‘foster mother’ for Emma in the most broad sense.
And honestly, when did Snow or Regina find the time to do all that work? I guess laywork could have been done in the EF after everyone returned in New York Serenade, but that’s a lot of work for two people.
I’m pretty sure the census record books were created by the Curse’s magic.
I agree that she may have somehow come during the second curse.
She’s been in our world a lot longer than a year, I can guarantee you that. She might’ve arrived in Storybrooke amid the chaos of the second Curse and the fight against Zelena, but she didn’t come BECAUSE of it (as is proven by the census records).
The drawing in Will’s pocket is something he probably had BEFORE he broke into the library (especially if he’s been stuck in Storybtooke since Snow cast her Curse), and he probably was looking through the Alice’s Adventures book because it’s a tangible reminder of Wonderland itself and his friends Alice, the White Rabbit, etc.
