[Ziera]

I like your thinking. 🙂 That is an interesting idea.

But would the shadow land without magic thing still be relevant at this point in time, when magic has already been brought to storybrooke?

I think that they will definitely make connection. It will be interesting. 🙂

[Ziera]

@TheTrickster wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

thats a good idea!! Him regaining control over himself and breaking his curse with his own true love for Belle. I would like to see that. 🙂

I know it fits the idea of true love in the show, but, you know, I don’t want Rumplestiltskin leaving magic T_T So, as far as he retains it, its oke with me 😛

About Hook knowing the dagger useless in our world… then the question is: is Mr. Gold a normal man? I mean, he has his magic and so on, but… can he be killed as everyone else?

Because if so, take revenge from him is as easy as if he were another man. Ok, he has magic, power… but can be killed with a sword, a gun, a bad hit on the head… The only true challenge would be kill him before being killed by his magic.

Why would you want him to keep his magic? 🙂

Thats the question I have been asking. What do you think? I’m thinking that now that magic is back, Rumpel can’t be killed? But it is in our world.

@Ziera117 wrote:

…I’m still wondering though as to how he wouldn’t die if he got stabbed by some other knife. Maybe he can get killed by other things in our world? Like, if someone cut his head off, how would he sidestep that?

I’m thinking that if it were true, hook wouldn’t have needed to go to neverland to plan for centuries. Like you said, he could just go kill Rumpel.. OR, if Cora told him that he was in a land without magic, he would be like…”But i spent a lot of years finding this one thing I have. That was all for nothing?”

Perhaps the dagger wouldn’t have then been able to control rumpel, but could still kill him?

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[Ziera]

@Ziera117 wrote:

The only thing that makes Rumpel the dark one is his name on the dagger, like, as far as we can see.
He still looks human and everything. I’m still wondering though as to how he wouldn’t die if he got stabbed by some other knife. Maybe he can get killed by other things in our world? Like, if someone cut his head off, how would he sidestep that?

On a different note, what if somehow hook knows Rumpel is in a world without magic? Maybe Cora told him. What if he planned on the dagger not working?

Maybe, but I’m not sure its likely… Thoughs?

I am a hopeless Rumbelletic, I really am. haha 😉

But back to this. Again, thoughts?

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[Ziera]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

[On a even more different note.. OOOH. I JUST HAD A REALLY SCARY THOUGHT.

This could be terrible…but what if…

What if now that there is magic in storybrooke, say the dagger does work. Say hook comes back and gets a hold of it, and finds belle out or whatever. What if he orders Rumpel to kill her? Rip out her heart?

:O

That would be so sad…but pretty awesome.

I don’t think Rumple would harm Belle even if he was being controlled. Isn’t true love supposed to be the most powerful magic of all or something? If so, I can see Rumple’s love for Belle triumphing over the control of the dagger.

thats a good idea!! Him regaining control over himself and breaking his curse with his own true love for Belle. I would like to see that. 🙂

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[Ziera]

I am a newer person here, too! Well, welcome. 🙂

I would like to know…what are your reasons for Dreamy being your favorite episode? What did you find so interesting about it?

🙂

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[Ziera]

@TheTrickster wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

On a even more different note.. OOOH. I JUST HAD A REALLY SCARY THOUGHT.

This could be terrible…but what if…

What if now that there is magic in storybrooke, say the dagger does work. Say hook comes back and gets a hold of it, and finds belle out or whatever. What if he orders Rumpel to kill her? Rip out her heart?

:O

That would be so sad…but pretty awesome.

O_O As a fan, and being Rumplestiltskin one of my favorite characters, it sounds horrible. Poor guy, I would like to kill Hook myself after that. It goes far beyond revenge, It is just… cruelty,

But from an impartial, cold, and inhuman literature perspective, it would be just… brilliant!!! 😮

haha I am too a big fan of Rumpel and Rumbelle. I mean it would be good, just not have him actually kill her. Maybe then would be a good time to break the curse, true loves kiss, eh? I mean it would be great to have the audience clinging to the edge of their seats for a little while. I don’t know…it sounds pretty amazing, though I wouldn’t want it to actually happen.

It is a possibility though! I would like to see it happen 🙂 Just as long as he doesn’t actually kill her.

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[Ziera]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Could that be because the dagger is a dark magic object and the wraith is a dark creature?Fairy dust wouldn’t have summoned the wraith.

Magic works differently, Rumple isn’t really the “dark one” anymore per se because he’s human rather than how he was in fairytale land.

Perhaps the dagger just holds dark magic rather than being able to control Rumple. Though Rumple should make sure that he still keeps it in a special place.

Hmm, I guess it could be.

The only thing that makes Rumpel the dark one is his name on the dagger, like, as far as we can see.
He still looks human and everything. I’m still wondering though as to how he wouldn’t die if he got stabbed by some other knife. Maybe he can get killed by other things in our world? Like, if someone cut his head off, how would he sidestep that?

On a different note, what if somehow hook knows Rumpel is in a world without magic? Maybe Cora told him. What if he planned on the dagger not working?

Maybe, but I’m not sure its likely… Thoughs?

On a even more different note.. OOOH. I JUST HAD A REALLY SCARY THOUGHT.

This could be terrible…but what if…

What if now that there is magic in storybrooke, say the dagger does work. Say hook comes back and gets a hold of it, and finds belle out or whatever. What if he orders Rumpel to kill her? Rip out her heart?

:O

That would be so sad…but pretty awesome.

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[Ziera]

@Gigi wrote:

I think it does. Rumple used it to summon the wraith.

thats a good thought. Youre right, he did use it to summon the wraith.

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[Ziera]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

What do you think about the weapon? Do you have any ideas of what Hook might have brought over?
Or do you think he is after the dagger?

Can Rumple be killed whilst in his Storybrooke human form? It’s possible that the Dark One originated from a diffferent land because Blue Fairy told Bae that Rumple’s magic didn’t belong in the land (I can’t remember the exact line). Perhaps Hook spent his time in Neverland researching the Dark one and has found a way to kill him. The dagger may not be the only way.

That is a really interesting theory. Do you think the dagger will have effect in Storybrooke?

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[Ziera]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

I don’t know if Hook would wait that long though–to become close to belle and seduce her. That would take a while, and I don’t think it would even work.

Belle wouldn’t allow herself to be seduced. She loves Rumple and would remain loyal to him which would put a nice contrast between her and Milah.

Hook wouldn’t need to sucessfully seduce Belle but have Rumple think that is what he’s doing. Hook already seduced Rumple’s wife so it wouldn’t be beyond reason that he could seduce Rumple’s girlfriend.

Rumple has self-esteem issues so he could quite easily jump to the conclusion that Belle has been seduced by Hook. Again, Rumple would be in a lose/lose situation. If he confronts Belle, she’s going to take offense that he doesn’t trust her to be faithful, and if he says nothing then he’s going to suffer in silence thinking he’s going to lose Belle to Hook like he did Milah.

Like you said, as far as we know Hook doesn’t know about Belle yet. He might be intending to kill Rumple right now but once he sees Belle, he might decide that it would be a better revenge to separate Rumple from his one true love.

I can honestly say I agree with you! This is going to be a tough one for Rumpel. 😮
Belle will stay true to him. Hes probably not used to faithfulness..haha.

I’m excited though!! I can’t wait for their conversation to happen. Hook and Rumpel? 🙂 Going to be pretty good…

What do you think about the weapon? Do you have any ideas of what Hook might have brought over?
Or do you think he is after the dagger?

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