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The Vault of the Dark One

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×15 “Quiet Minds” › The Vault of the Dark One

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  • March 30, 2014 at 9:38 pm #256934
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Rumple was brought back using the Vault of the Dark One

    Not really sure I understand.

    What was he—black goo? What happened?

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    March 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm #256940
    TheWatcher
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    Atleast we know there was a first Dark One. Can we get the transcript about what Lumiere said about the vault? Did he say all the dark ones are in there or something?

    It makes sense that Rumpel wasn’t dead when you think about it… He did say he was Eternal when he spoke to Smee that tine. So perhaps even after death and passing their powers a dark one can still be summoned..

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    March 30, 2014 at 9:57 pm #256955
    bibliophile
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    I guess the vault contains the original power and once Rumple died he was dragged back there somehow because the darkness has to have some kind of host. Maybe it’s like a genie’s bottle in some way and the only way to escape it is to die and have your murderer assume the dark powers.

     

    Are all the previous Dark Ones stuck in there or (more likely) only the most recent Dark One (Rumple).

     

    It would be interesting to see more of the Dark Powers origins some day.

    March 30, 2014 at 10:25 pm #257002
    sleepyowl
    Participant

    It kinda reminds me of Charmed… where the dark one could be summoned… They’re never dead… they just vanished and come back when someone summoned them by using magic.. right?

    March 30, 2014 at 10:47 pm #257015
    schaendlich
    Participant

    I think it’s more of a punishment for attempting to kill himself. I don’t think that Rumpel actually died. That would create a plot hole. I think he was just sealed within the Dark One’s Vault until someone else came and summoned the Dark One’s power again.

    March 30, 2014 at 10:48 pm #257018
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I think it’s more of a punishment for attempting to kill himself. I don’t think that Rumpel actually died. That would create a plot hole. I think he was just sealed within the Dark One’s Vault until someone else came and summoned the Dark One’s power again.

    But did he know about it???? Did he know that would happen? That he’d be ZAPPED into some heretofore unmentioned black vault?!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 30, 2014 at 10:57 pm #257026
    schaendlich
    Participant

    I think so. He mentioned to Zelena that he knew what the price was to bring him back. So, It was very likely that he knew what awaited him wasn’t “death” per se. He probably just figured he’d be sealed away for eternity. That’s a pretty heavy sacrifice…

    Also, the black goo, I think Lumiere said, was the darkness that the first Dark One was made of. So Rumpel didn’t die, just reverted to dark matter in a vault.

    March 31, 2014 at 3:49 am #257188
    Phee
    Participant

    Can we get the transcript about what Lumiere said about the vault?

    “Where the first Dark One was made, born out of the, well, darkness.”

    March 31, 2014 at 4:09 am #257191
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    I think so. He mentioned to Zelena that he knew what the price was to bring him back. So, It was very likely that he knew what awaited him wasn’t “death” per se. He probably just figured he’d be sealed away for eternity. That’s a pretty heavy sacrifice…

    Also, the black goo, I think Lumiere said, was the darkness that the first Dark One was made of. So Rumpel didn’t die, just reverted to dark matter in a vault.

    it is a heavy sacrifice. I bet this is why he was so afraid of it, unlike a regular person, he would not just die and rest in peace, he would suffer for all eternity locked up in that dark vault…
    this is why I can not believe that Neal is really dead… such a major sacrifice to make sure that his son had a chance at happiness… he will never let Bae die for him. he did some major magic when he saved Bae and lost his brain and dagger. so I am sure this big magc included another sacrifice where somehow he will save Neal, bring him back, and he will either go back into that vault or die or whatever…

    March 31, 2014 at 4:28 am #257195
    Phee
    Participant

    it is a heavy sacrifice. I bet this is why he was so afraid of it, unlike a regular person, he would not just die and rest in peace, he would suffer for all eternity locked up in that dark vault…
    this is why I can not believe that Neal is really dead…

    They’ve left the specifics delightfully vague. Was Rumple really ever dead in any way, shape or form? Because if not, then the “life for a life” thing wasn’t technically one person being brought back to life and another one dying, it was one person being dragged out of the DO Vault, and another person having to take their place in there? And if Rumple wasn’t actually “dead” when he was in there, then logically, Neal’s not really “dead” either, he’s just trapped in the Vault? But we got no indication of Rumple’s body having been outside the Vault, but Neal’s very definitely lying on the forest floor. Then again, Rumple was the Dark One and Neal was just a mortal, so maybe the same body vanishing rules don’t apply for both? Magic + logic = headache.

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