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Re: The CaptainSwan thread!

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › The Captain Swan thread! › Re: The CaptainSwan thread!

May 8, 2013 at 5:03 am #192153
surayya
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@obisgirl wrote:

On the green portal scene, there was a nice gif setI saw on tumblr with some thoughtful remarks at the bottom, which I think should give us all hope for the future.

Once again Emma did what she thought she had to do to get him to stay. The girl who’s lost everyone, she gives what she thinks people give to people they want to stay. “I love you”, three words that mean forever to so many people, that mean staying, that mean not being alone. But they don’t mean that. Sometimes “I love you” is the same as “Goodbye”.

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I think that nicely sums up my feelings on that scene.

I like that spin on it- still annoyed with the scene, but taken in that context, it makes it much more swallow-able. I just cant remember having seen Emma say/do something like that, without meaning it- anyone got any examples from off the top of their heads ….I need at least 1 proven example to get over that set of scenes 😉

@obisgirl wrote:

I like Baelfire too, he’s a great kid but honestly, I hate the way he’s been so patronizing and belittling Emma this season since he came to Storybrooke with his fiance, whom we all know, is 😈 👿 . I understand that when we hear bad stuff about the people we love, you have the tendency to believe the opposite because you don’t want to think ill will about someone you love. I get that part.

We’ve seen Neal do nothing but smirk and belittle and call into question Emma’s most fundamental beliefs about herself. He has no real idea who she is now. He still thinks of her as that scared trusting 18 year old he knew. And Emma – who has been shown as a character who takes *(please avoid profanity)* from NO ONE – just….lets him. You can see it when she looks at him. After that initial burst of anger, she’s been fairly passive in their interactions. She regresses as person. How is that healthy? How does that make her better?

Exactly!!! I too like young Bae- but Neil really gets up my goat, for those exact reasons- as I’ve said many times before.
The point on Emma’s reaction to him is also true,that’s why I find scenes between those two so ….. bland, it’s like Emma shrivels up, rather than blossoms around Neil atm & the total opposite is true of Emma & Killian/Hook’s interactions- Both times Emma has become ‘better’ than who she has become, has been with Graham & with Hook- but in different ways. Neil turned Emma’s metal armour into titanium plated armour (she wasn’t letting anyone through it for any reason), until Graham- who allowed for a softening in said armour, Henry who got inside with her (despite her kicking & screaming most of the way lol 😉 ) MM/Snow who finally got the whole way in S2E1, Hook allows for her to open up & puts cracks in her titanium armour, Charming gets inside it not long afetr they return to SB (tho I’m not 100% certian on this, as they have so little time together – I did almost melt at that tender father-daughter scene they shared though 😀 ). Neil comes back into the picture & WHAM, BAM thank you maam- Emma’s armour is slammed back into place, like a door on a grizzly bear, in the blink of an eye! & She hasnt really come out of it since NY- at least how I see it anyway 😐

I don’t understand how people can be so pro SF with all the cruel/mean little things Neil does to Emma, yet be so anti CS when none of that kind of thing has taken place between them! But whatever rocks their boats I suppose 😉

@obisgirl wrote:

— that tumblr character post.

After reading that whole post, and you guys really should, tell me how Emma going back to Neal is going to help with her character growth? It won’t. If anything, Emma would probably regress and that would be heart-breaking. She needs to learn to trust again before she can love and going back to the guy who broke her heart, will not help. Hell, I wouldn’t even encourage my own kid to do that if I had one. But she can start trusting Hook, maybe even become friends with him and then, if something romantic happens later — that would be icing on the cake.

But going back to Neal would not be a healthy character development for Emma.

I’ve got the link up now to have a look at next- I don’t do tumbler, find the format hard to navigate.

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