@malchore wrote:
think the hearts the EQ extracted were the person’s soul. It took on the tangible qualities of a human heart in size and appearance, but it was really a metaphore for a human soul. When Emma was close to Graham she said something to the effect of “…there, I can hear your beating heart. It’s there, I can feel it” just before they kissed. It’s non-sensical to remove an actual beating heart and have the person still walking and talking.
@hjbau wrote:
I disagree that it is nonsensical to remove their heart and have them still walking around. It is magic. As long as they keep whatever they decide to do consistent then they can remove peoples hearts and have them still live all the want.
Right, @HJ. @Mal, Have you since Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest? Which is a Disney movie btw. Davy Jones cut out his literal heart and buried it in a chest so that he wouldn’t have to feel heartbreak. (It didn’t work though. He’s still tortured over his past with his lover) The pirates dig it up in that movie and use it to control him. And by the way, it continues to beat. (Isn’t that what we’ve seen them do in FTL too?) Anyway, I think it’s the same way in this show. I think the EQ literally takes out their hearts. And it’s because of magic that they can continue to live. To explain why Emma was able to say that in SB I believe what Graham’s excuse was–that his heartbeat was fake. The curse turned crickets into humans to make it more realistic, so it would’ve added a fake heart or at least the sound of one. I really like your theory though and honestly I believe there’s a mix. Because unlike with PotC: DMC cutting out their literal hearts ALSO cuts out their emotions.
Getting back to this episode:
I like how everyone is theorizing all kinds of things. And everyone wants Kathryn to still be alive, like Belle turned out to be. But this episode was dark. Peter wasn’t saved. I don’t think the writers saved Kat for us either.
Kathryn is MUCH more useful to Regina DEAD than she is missing or alive–so there’s no reason to fake her death. Why fabricate evidence if you don’t have to? Regina already fabricated some of it and the more she does that the more chance there is of it being discovered. She’s an old hand at this game so I don’t think she’d take any chances by faking a death on top of framing someone for it! It’s just too much. I think things do go a little deeper than face-value, that’s the way this show is. But honestly, you have to hold back sometimes. And in this case I think they did. I hope they did. I love crazy theories and plots but it gets so tiresome if it’s always always like that. You have to let us fall back on some reality or we can’t suspend our disbelief. The elaborate theories about the stranger are enough right now. We don’t need to be so elaborate with this too. It’s just… cleaner to do it straight!
RE: Emma:
I really hope that the cliffhanger for the end of the season is Emma faced with some kind of magic that she can’t explain. I want her on the verge of believing on the very last episode. Seems like the perfect time for that to happen. Her lack of belief is another thing that will get tiresome eventually.