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IN anticipation of Sunday’s show I am posting my favorite thread where our members state what they liked about the episode … I am so ready for this the press release looks like a really good show.
[adrotate group="5"]Just to clarify, 6×12 “Murder Most Foul” airs NEXT Sunday. The episode airing this Sunday (the 5th) is 6×11–Tougher Than The Rest
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"GENERAL: Overall, I actually thought this episode had a lot of good points, particularly the flashback which is a nice change of pace; normally I find the flashbacks to be fairly intolerable. There were some nice through-lines about fathers/sons and fathers trying to fix families on their own and coming up short. There was also some nice character work with Charming in the present day trying to be Prince Charming and knowing it’s not enough sometimes. However, the Robin/Regina story dragged on and is already proving pointless. I also missed Henry and am disappointed that Emma’s only scene involved her and Hook instead of seeing Emma with her parents. Also, I am truly appalled at the twist the Hook killed Emma’s grandfather and it’s not going to matter all. We all know it.
Rating: 8/10
LIKED
–“Demon box”
–Snow giving Regina sound advice that this Robin is not our Robin and she needs to proceed with caution even though Regina’s heart just wants Robin.
–“Fixing this broken family, this is how I fix myself.”
–“Someday, may we all be reunited with our sons.” That hurt right in the chest area. Also, Bobby was totally on point as the Dark One this week; haven’t seen a performance like that from him in awhile.
–“Better be safe?” I normally find very little amusing about Hook, but watching him and Charming try to chem-lab their way to magic was fairly hilarious.
–August told us what pages he took from Henry’s book!
–“What if being Prince Charming isn’t enough?” This is the most color David’s character has had in awhile and it’s nice. I like when the writers explore David’s white knight trope and show how destructive it can be for the individual.
MIXED
–“Technically I am a pirate still but the good kind.” I’m not even really sure what that means.
–David’s entire present day plot until the climax felt so unnecessary. He doesn’t want to bother Emma but that excuse just sounds flimsy. I get that a major theme of this episode is a father fixing his family (seen across several characters like Robert, David, Rumple) but the idea that David wouldn’t go to the Savior for help is just….silly and drawn out for the sake of filling time and having David and Hook bond even though they kinda already had.
–“Yes, James. I am also your father.” Stranger! Danger! (But seeing young Pinocchio was great).
DISLIKED
–Emma’s floral blouse-thingy in the opening SB scene was hideous. Maybe the most hideous thing she’s ever worn.
–Zelena showing up demanding that Robin be informed that he has no rights to Baby Robyn. It comes out of nowhere and there’s no reason to believe that WishRealm Robin would want anything to do with Robyn.
–Emma you do not have a superpower. You never have. It’s a convenient plot point when the writers want you to think you have it.
–Regina really needs to return those hearts. Like, that’s just super uncalled for.
–Pleasure Island has modern carnival rides for kids living in the medieval ages. Didn’t they all wonder what a light bulb was???!
–Robert didn’t even try to fight off the guards! He just meekly said “no” and then got dragged away.
–Hook killed Robert. And it’s not going to matter all. It’s so annoying and…other things.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I liked this episode quite a bit. I would give it a 8/10. My husband pointed out which may have just been a light reflection but as soon as August gave Hook the papers as Hook is walking up the driveway there is a blue light that follows him for awhile.
Liked:
The father trying to fix and reunite with his family theme. I liked that we now have canon that Rumple would make deals which he made seem like he was getting something but was just doing it for show. Loved that Rumple moment.
I liked Robert’s story and the flashbacks were good. I actually cared about him and was sad to see his death. That is quite a feat for someone we only met for one episode
I really liked Hook this episode ( and I usually hate him). I thought he was great with David and I like when they bond. I also thought it was nice that he wanted to ask permission and was actually scared of the answer.
I liked the Pinocchio and August scenes both the flashbacks to pleasure island and the modern day August just being helpful
I liked the Snow and Regina moments. I always love when they sit down and have a heart to heart.
I liked that I was surprised that Hook killed David’s dad
I liked Charming and Hook trying to make a potion together (clueless leading the clueless) but hey they got it to work
Mixed:
I like that they made Hook kill David’s dad I think it brings some dynamic and conflict to Hook and Emma’s relationship, unfortunately I doubt they play out that conflict. I mean Emma will probably just say well it was in your past or maybe they will just have Hook brood about telling her for awhile and she will instantly forgive him. Like always I think he will get off with little to no repercussions for his actions.
Poor Regina! She really can’t seem to win. I felt bad for her and I hate that she can’t seem to find the second part of her happy ending (the first part is Henry). I am glad though that they made her see that he is different and that she does not have feelings for him.
Zelena insisting that Regina tell him he has a daughter and then tell him he has no rights to her. Why is she insisting that he knows if she is going to refuse him any rights? Made no sense.
This episode was awfully…interesting! Predictable, but interesting.
Rating: 7/10
Liked:
Robin adjusting to modern life…that “Demon Box” gets the best of us sometimes!
Believe it or not, SnowQueen Scene were my favorite scenes! To see how far this relationship has developed from mortal enemies in S1 to good friends/mother-daughter, one of the highlights of the entire series.
David actually had a pretty good storyline this episode!
Let’s all take a moment to applaud Bobby!
The Vault Scene was bittersweet for obvious reasons.
Hook & David brewing potions…okay, that was neat!
Mixed:
My expectations were already at an all time low so I’m really not affected by the re-sinking of the OQ Ship! I’m just happy to see Sean Maguire on TV again!
So Emma’s superpower just goes in and out I guess.
Pleasure Island? Seriously?!
So the hearts Regina possesses…are they the hearts of her real enemies or hearts of innocent people? Surely this Mary Sue version of her should know the difference, and I think we need an answer to this question.
Disliked:
So since Regina says Baby Robyn isn’t Robin’s child…I take it that means Roland isn’t his child neither?! I really don’t know what to think of this, but okay…fine I guess.
Hook killing Robert…I’m not surprised. But will this be addressed or swept under the rug? Given how it was handled with Snow killing Cora, Regina killing Graham, or Emma covering up Merlin’s murder…I’m guessing it’s going to be swept under the rug.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
LOVED
Practically everything from the flashback. The Charming Family backstory fit in very well with what we already knew. Robert Charming (for lack of a better last name) being a weak man, who gave into temptation to save his son and then regretted it afterwards paralleled nicely with the Rumplestiltskin backstory and made for a lovely moment where Rumple was allowed to show some humanity peeking out from under his darkness.Hook and Charming making a potion was hilarious.
LIKED
Hook killing Robert at the end, because it surprised me. I went into this thinking they were going to make us all think Hook killed Charming’s father and then reveal that it was just King George all along. So basically I liked it because it surprised me. Too bad we all know the characters won’t even remember this happened in six episodes or so.I also liked that now we know which pages August removed from the book.
DISLIKED
All the Robin and Regina stuff. Look I hated that they killed Robin Hood off in such a brutal pointless way, but they did not need to bring him back and frankly I never really enjoyed any of the storylines they gave him. That Zelena scene was completely unnecessary as well.I am wondering about that heart vault as well. If Regina really is reformed shouldn’t she at least try to return some of those hearts in between bouts of complaining about the unfairness of her life?
That Zelena scene was completely unnecessary as well.
She was so shrill! And I thought Zelena and Regina were meant to be progressing in their relationship. Or at least try? Zelena doesn’t even try to let Regina explain before she poofs off.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I liked the scene in Rumpel’s palace up until (but not including) the “Someday, may we all be reunited with our sons” line. His performance leading up to that point, with the little hesitations and all that, conveyed his torment powerfully. To add that great big clue hammer of a line to the end of that scene was as counterproductive as a comedian explaining the punchline of a joke he’s just told.
Since returning stolen hearts is trivially easy (hold heart in hand, say “Come to my vault and get your heart; leave torches and pitchforks at home”), I have to assume that Regina has already tried that with all of the hearts, and that the hearts still in the vault belong to people stuck in other realms.
Six-year-old James seemed like such a nice kid that I thought the twins were going to switch places. Could’ve happened, if Robert had managed to get James home just in time for King George to show up and take David. Then Ruth comes in from the field, and Robert has to call James “David” to spare Ruth’s feelings. David grows up with emotional problems from this early trauma, James grows up with a loving mother and forgets his real name (and as an adult learns to hate his own real name because he thinks it’s his brother’s name), and Robert can’t live with the deception. King George, of course, found true love with a peasant girl named Ruth once upon a time, but was unable to marry her because of politics and class boundaries, so he had to abandon her while she was pregnant. George knows James is his child, doesn’t know about James’ twin, and hates Robert for winning the hand of the woman he wanted. That’s the way it really happened, despite the fake news we saw tonight.
Add “Nottingham’s Quest For Tongue” to the Untold Stories volume.
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