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But they don’t treat it as a flaw or a mistake that she has to learn from. I’m all for flawd characters, but the whole point is for them to understand it, learn from it and grow as a person. It was played as “bas ass” Emma, no one called her out and it will never be mentioned again.
I didn’t see people complaining when Emma bashed a guys head against a steering wheel in the Pilot. How did they not address it as a mistake? Emma completely changed her behaviour after RumBelle explained about Gideon’s upbringing. She tried a different approach, to give him hope, and he completely deceived her (whether he was being controlled or not). I don’t understand why people are making her out to be so awful?
The bigger question I have, was why Hook couldn’t return after the napkin that had absorbed Emma’s tears went up in flames?
[adrotate group="5"]Because in the pilot it was a con man and this time it is Belle, who was supportive of them all the time?
Because in the pilot it was about standing up to bullies and now it’s about being one?
"All your questions are pointless"
Because in the pilot it was a con man and this time it is Belle, who was supportive of them all the time? Because in the pilot it was about standing up to bullies and now it’s about being one?
The Pilot reference was about the Gideon punch scene, not Belle. Emma punched him after saying “You tried to kill me with that sword and you failed, and now you think you can bully me?”. She was literally hitting back in an attempt to prove that she will not be intimidated by him. It was a move that was fuelled by anger and frustration, but I don’t think that it is out of character.
Belle thinks everyone is good. She will probably be saying the same about the Black Fairy when she arrives. That being said, she is blinded by the love of her son, and although she happens to be right in this case – she has been very wrong in the past. Emma did listen to her ultimately though.
Because in the pilot it was about standing up to bullies and now it’s about being one?
SHE ALMOST DIED AND GIDEON TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE AND HE TOOK HOOK AWAY FROM HER. AND NOW SHE WANTS TO PROTECT HERSELF AND HER FAMILY IN CASE HE TRIES TO DO IT AGAIN. How on earth is that her being a bully? After nearly dying twice, don’t you think she is entitled to handle things her way this time after Gideon failed to be nice? She gave him a chance per Rumple and Belle’s wishes. What is she supposed to do? Just be cool with it and hope he doesn’t try and kill her again. Oh and just keep living without Hook? I really do not understand your point at all.
Because Emma is supposed to be a “hero” and rather than showing sympathy towards RumBelle and the situation with Gideon, Emma is marching into the shop and threatening to kill their son all because she’s mad that Gideon sent away Hook. Emma’s anger seems to focus on that rather than Gideon’s attempted murder of her.
He tried to kill her twice too! It’s not just about hook. Like this is a guy whom she already gave a second chance to. How can she just say, ok guys you’re right. I believe you. He’s a good boy. HOW? She can’t.
This! Emma is upset that Gideon is messing with her life, and the hypocrisy is almost unforgiving. She went in there and stated that Gideon is using Hook as a bargaining chip while she has done the exact same thing to Rumple. She went into his shop and blackmailed him to take them to the underworld by using Belle. And guess what you could blame Emma for the entire Gideon mess if you want to she was the first domino in all of this. You have this paired with the Charmings doing the exact same thing, Snow stating that she would love to help Emma because they need bonding time is horribly ridiculous. These are supposed to be our “heroes” and they are being self centered, hypocritical jerks
So let me get this straight. Gideon tries to kill Emma twice, deceives her after she gave him a second chance per Rumbelle’s wishes, and sends the man she loves away and she’s being self-centered for wanting something to be done to prevent this from happening anymore to her? She isn’t upset because Gideon is messing with her life. She’s upset bc he deceived her, left her for dead and TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE. And separated her from Hook. You’re making it seem like what Gideon has done is minor. If someone tried to kill you twice and sent away the person you loved and deceived you after they said they were good, would you just do what Rumbelle is telling you? Do what the Dark One is telling you, someone who would protect his son no matter what he was doing. Of course not. You would defend yourself and try and get rid of them. And that’s what she is doing. If I was her, I’d be so done with all the crap about him being a good person and that he’s just messed up bc of the Black Fairy. That may be true, but HE TRIED TO KILL ME TWICE! I’d have to do something about it at this point. And trying to protect myself and my family doesn’t make me self-centered.
Because in the pilot it was about standing up to bullies and now it’s about being one?
SHE ALMOST DIED AND GIDEON TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE AND HE TOOK HOOK AWAY FROM HER. AND NOW SHE WANTS TO PROTECT HERSELF AND HER FAMILY IN CASE HE TRIES TO DO IT AGAIN. How on earth is that her being a bully? After nearly dying twice, don’t you think she is entitled to handle things her way this time after Gideon failed to be nice? She gave him a chance per Rumple and Belle’s wishes. What is she supposed to do? Just be cool with it and hope he doesn’t try and kill her again. Oh and just keep living without Hook? I really do not understand your point at all.
Because Emma is supposed to be a “hero” and rather than showing sympathy towards RumBelle and the situation with Gideon, Emma is marching into the shop and threatening to kill their son all because she’s mad that Gideon sent away Hook. Emma’s anger seems to focus on that rather than Gideon’s attempted murder of her.
He tried to kill her twice too! It’s not just about hook. Like this is a guy whom she already gave a second chance to. How can she just say, ok guys you’re right. I believe you. He’s a good boy. HOW? She can’t.
This! Emma is upset that Gideon is messing with her life, and the hypocrisy is almost unforgiving. She went in there and stated that Gideon is using Hook as a bargaining chip while she has done the exact same thing to Rumple. She went into his shop and blackmailed him to take them to the underworld by using Belle. And guess what you could blame Emma for the entire Gideon mess if you want to she was the first domino in all of this. You have this paired with the Charmings doing the exact same thing, Snow stating that she would love to help Emma because they need bonding time is horribly ridiculous. These are supposed to be our “heroes” and they are being self centered, hypocritical jerks
So let me get this straight. Gideon tries to kill Emma twice, deceives her after she gave him a second chance per Rumbelle’s wishes, and sends the man she loves away and she’s being self-centered for wanting something to be done to prevent this from happening anymore to her? She isn’t upset because Gideon is messing with her life. She’s upset bc he deceived her, left her for dead and TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE. And separated her from Hook. You’re making it seem like what Gideon has done is minor. If someone tried to kill you twice and sent away the person you loved and deceived you after they said they were good, would you just do what Rumbelle is telling you? Do what the Dark One is telling you, someone who would protect his son no matter what he was doing. Of course not. You would defend yourself and try and get rid of them. And that’s what she is doing. If I was her, I’d be so done with all the crap about him being a good person and that he’s just messed up bc of the Black Fairy. That may be true, but HE TRIED TO KILL ME TWICE! I’d have to do something about it at this point. And trying to protect myself and my family doesn’t make me self-centered.
The threat wasn’t to Gideon though, it was to his parents, including his mother, Belle, who just lost her son. Do you know who was in the same situation? Snow (and Emma kind of), so you would think that them being in the same situation as Belle would make them sympathize with her, you would think that coming at her the way they did is insensitive (Belle’s lack of reaction is a different matter).
It is as if Emma stopped being a mother and turned into a lovesick teenager, oh wait…"All your questions are pointless"
Because in the pilot it was about standing up to bullies and now it’s about being one?
SHE ALMOST DIED AND GIDEON TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE AND HE TOOK HOOK AWAY FROM HER. AND NOW SHE WANTS TO PROTECT HERSELF AND HER FAMILY IN CASE HE TRIES TO DO IT AGAIN. How on earth is that her being a bully? After nearly dying twice, don’t you think she is entitled to handle things her way this time after Gideon failed to be nice? She gave him a chance per Rumple and Belle’s wishes. What is she supposed to do? Just be cool with it and hope he doesn’t try and kill her again. Oh and just keep living without Hook? I really do not understand your point at all.
Because Emma is supposed to be a “hero” and rather than showing sympathy towards RumBelle and the situation with Gideon, Emma is marching into the shop and threatening to kill their son all because she’s mad that Gideon sent away Hook. Emma’s anger seems to focus on that rather than Gideon’s attempted murder of her.
He tried to kill her twice too! It’s not just about hook. Like this is a guy whom she already gave a second chance to. How can she just say, ok guys you’re right. I believe you. He’s a good boy. HOW? She can’t.
This! Emma is upset that Gideon is messing with her life, and the hypocrisy is almost unforgiving. She went in there and stated that Gideon is using Hook as a bargaining chip while she has done the exact same thing to Rumple. She went into his shop and blackmailed him to take them to the underworld by using Belle. And guess what you could blame Emma for the entire Gideon mess if you want to she was the first domino in all of this. You have this paired with the Charmings doing the exact same thing, Snow stating that she would love to help Emma because they need bonding time is horribly ridiculous. These are supposed to be our “heroes” and they are being self centered, hypocritical jerks
So let me get this straight. Gideon tries to kill Emma twice, deceives her after she gave him a second chance per Rumbelle’s wishes, and sends the man she loves away and she’s being self-centered for wanting something to be done to prevent this from happening anymore to her? She isn’t upset because Gideon is messing with her life. She’s upset bc he deceived her, left her for dead and TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE. And separated her from Hook. You’re making it seem like what Gideon has done is minor. If someone tried to kill you twice and sent away the person you loved and deceived you after they said they were good, would you just do what Rumbelle is telling you? Do what the Dark One is telling you, someone who would protect his son no matter what he was doing. Of course not. You would defend yourself and try and get rid of them. And that’s what she is doing. If I was her, I’d be so done with all the crap about him being a good person and that he’s just messed up bc of the Black Fairy. That may be true, but HE TRIED TO KILL ME TWICE! I’d have to do something about it at this point. And trying to protect myself and my family doesn’t make me self-centered.
I am glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. Thank you.
Do you know who was in the same situation? Snow (and Emma kind of), so you would think that them being in the same situation as Belle would make them sympathize with her, you would think that coming at her the way they did is insensitive (Belle’s lack of reaction is a different matter).
The point is that Belle is coming across to Emma as being completely in denial because of her emotional investment in the situation, and her track record at spotting lies. I would understand your point if Belle was always right and Emma hadn’t spent almost an entire season getting the Savior shakes because of something that Gideon was going to do to her. It just makes NO SENSE for Emma to accept what Belle is saying with no questions asked given everything that has happened this year. Pretty much all of which Gideon is the root cause of.
Emma doesn’t watch the show, so she doesn’t know that Gideon is good deep down.
It is as if Emma stopped being a mother and turned into a lovesick teenager, oh wait…
Sweet lord. If she acted like this after all Gideon did was send Hook away then ok. Yes absolutely she is. But it’s like you are completely dismissing the attempted murder and the fact that Emma already had listened to them and gave him a second chance. Oh, and she did threaten Gideon when she punched him. So now, she’s threatening Belle and Rumple bc she doesn’t know what else to do.
Let’s say your neighbors kid keeps sneaking into your house when you aren’t home and steals things. The kid says he’s sorry, the parents say he’s actually a good kid, it’s just his biological mother/group home (insert whatever) really screwed him up. So then you give the kid another chance and you don’t take any action. Then the kid says he’s sorry and won’t ever do it again. Then, he breaks into your house again and steals something again. What would you do? Would you not go to the parents and be pissed? If you were Emma, how would you have handled this differently? To me, they were the ones who said to give him another chance and that he was a good boy. Well, when he acts up again, she goes to his parents. It makes total sense that she would not only be pissed, but that she would go straight to his parents. And like Matt pointed out, Belle would say the devil is actually a good man. she is blinded by the love of her son. And Rumple is the Do who just sucked Blue Fairy’s power with Gideon like a day ago. How can she trust these people? I’d be so pissed too if I were her.
She’s upset bc he deceived her, left her for dead and TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE.
First of all, the shop scene was before Gideon deceived her it was right after he told her that he was being abused by the black fairy, needed her help to save 100’s of children, and that Hook was not hurt just away. She then decided to go to the shop with dear old mom who should have been filled in about all this with Emma and said that your son has a death wish and I am happy to fulfill it. Your son is using Hook as a bargaining chip. This is my problem, she has used Belle very recently as a bargaining chip and therefore is being a hypocrite and blackmailing Rumple was not very “hero” like.
She’s upset bc he deceived her, left her for dead and TRIED TO KILL HER TWICE. And separated her from Hook. You’re making it seem like what Gideon has done is minor. If someone tried to kill you twice and sent away the person you loved and deceived you after they said they were good, would you just do what Rumbelle is telling you? Do what the Dark One is telling you, someone who would protect his son no matter what he was doing. Of course not. You would defend yourself and try and get rid of them.
Well by this reasoning, Rumple is completely justified in killing Emma and Hook. If I am not mistaken Emma tried to kill Belle on several different occasions, and imprisoned Rumple while she was the dark one, and then lets not forget sending Rumple away from Belle to the underworld by blackmailing him (while she was not the dark one). Hook has tried to kill Belle and Rumple on several different occasions. Rumple has every right to protect his son from Emma who has made it very obvious in the last couple of seasons that Rumple and Belle are not in her “family” and therefore do not deserve her protection. Emma has become a “savior” when it effects only the ones she loves.
The point is that Belle is coming across to Emma as being completely in denial because of her emotional investment in the situation, and her track record at spotting lies. I would understand your point if Belle was always right and Emma hadn’t spent almost an entire season getting the Savior shakes because of something that Gideon was going to do to her. It just makes NO SENSE for Emma to accept what Belle is saying with no questions asked given everything that has happened this year. Pretty much all of which Gideon is the root cause of. Emma doesn’t watch the show, so she doesn’t know that Gideon is good deep down.
Exactly. This is supposedly the person that kills her in her dream. And he already has tried to kill her twice. And now she should just listen to the DO and Belle bc they say he’s a good kid? That’s insane. It’s not like Gideon has said he doesn’t want to kill the Savior. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES TO RUMPLE THAT HE STILL NEEDS TO DO IT DESPITE RUMPLE TELLING HIM NOT TO. So Rumple knows that’s what he wants to do. And he’s just ok with that bc Gideon is a good kid? But Emma, who’s life is on the line and who doesn’t have the person she loves with her, is just supposed to agree to not do anything about this? I can’t help but feel that if we didn’t know that Gideon was actually a good person (like Emma on the show), then you would be totally fine with how Emma reacted. It’s not her fault she doesn’t know!
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