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Jamie Dornan was not actually a regular. He was a guest star on all the press releases at the time. They were just trying to keep the fact that he was going to be killed off a secret by pretending he was a regular.
You’re right. I was mistaken. Thank you for correcting me. That’s so odd that they have him listed at the beginning of the episodes as “starring” when he wasn’t. At that early point in the show I don’t think I would have thought they were going to kill him off just because he was guest starring.
[adrotate group="5"]Yeah, i think the writers tried to confuse the issue on purpose. I agree though. He could have been a guest and i wouldn’t have thought anything of it. He wasn’t in the show that much until the episode he was killed in anyways. That was back when the writers were trying to prove the show had stakes, which it does not.
Yeah, i think the writers tried to confuse the issue on purpose. I agree though. He could have been a guest and i wouldn’t have thought anything of it. He wasn’t in the show that much until the episode he was killed in anyways. That was back when the writers were trying to prove the show had stakes, which it does not.
I wonder if he got paid for starring or guest status?
Really liked a lot about this ep. It had some big reveals, but much of it was also about character, and not for the first time this season. Here’s #hoping that this trend of actual character exploration rather than just plot, plot, OMG SO MUCH PLOT continues, because it’s making this season so much more enjoyable than the show has been in years.
I’ve been saying since ep 1 that Drizella cast the Curse, but dang even I didn’t expect her to go this dark. So even as someone who wasn’t shocked by the reveal that it was her Curse, it still surprised me, and I loved it.
About Rumple making a deal with Regina, and people worried about him backsliding…I think the favour she owes him is gonna be to kill him. That’s his whole goal this season, to die and get back to Belle, so someone’s gonna have to kill him, and he’s putting faith in Regina being able to do it for him. It’ll reflect nicely on her insistance in this ep that murder is a NOPE when training Drizella, if in the end Rumple tells her that this is what she owes him. It’d actually be perfect if she’s protesting and saying she doesn’t kill any more, and Rumple just pauses, looks at her, and says, “Please.”
It’d actually be perfect if she’s protesting and saying she doesn’t kill any more, and Rumple just pauses, looks at her, and says, “Please.”
Oh wow. That would be perfect!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’d actually be perfect if she’s protesting and saying she doesn’t kill any more, and Rumple just pauses, looks at her, and says, “Please.”
Oh wow. That would be perfect!
Whoa. I agree. I really, really hope that’s how it all goes down. Well done for coming up with that.
About Rumple making a deal with Regina, and people worried about him backsliding…I think the favour she owes him is gonna be to kill him. That’s his whole goal this season, to die and get back to Belle, so someone’s gonna have to kill him, and he’s putting faith in Regina being able to do it for him.
That’d be a very disturbing message, that suicide is a way to rejoin a dead loved one. Rumpel wants to get rid of the Dark One curse and pass it to someone who will guard it responsibly, and that will at least result in the return of Rumpel’s mortality and probably his immediate death, but that’s an extraordinary situation. *Everybody* loses someone important at some point, and it hurts a lot, but True Love doesn’t tell us to give in to that pain. That’s something else talking.
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ENJOYED this episode much more 7-8/10 rating
Like: All the SUBTLE EASTER EGGS … Easter Eggs are great as long as they do not hit you over the head…
Muchin Whiskey x 3 from Lost
Tangled / Rupunzel references … I think that story is coming ….
Bella Note Restaurant … dogs in the Alley …. Lady in the Tramp …. here were more I recognized at the time
Loved Regina and her against all the other characters … Henry, Rumple, Ivy
Loving Regina’s clothes in new EF and HH
MIXED: Still not feeling Henry & Ella-Jacinda … I see what the writers want us to see but I just do not feel them….. feeling pushed…
Not much dislike for this episode ….. Enjoyed it more than last week’s.
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That’d be a very disturbing message, that suicide is a way to rejoin a dead loved one.
Isn’t suicide what we’re already dealing with for Rumple’s story this season though? His goal in life now is to figure out how to get himself mortal specifically so he can die and get back to Belle. Even if all the years instantly catch up to him when he relinquishes the Dagger and he drops dead right away, that’s still him committing suicide. Disturbing message or not, his story is that he’s making a concerted effort to see that his life comes to an end ASAP so he can see Belle again.
And he helped wake Regina up by giving her the adoption papers, (he didn’t have to give her any legit information, but he did), and now she owes him one. And if his only desire now is to be mortal and die, then having Regina’s help with that is the only motivation he could have for helping her wake up. However she helps him in his plan, it makes her complicit in his death. And after seeing how anti-killing she is now in her conversation with Drizella (which happened in the same ep as her coming to owe Rumple something), she wouldn’t want to be responsible for someone’s death, so probably wouldn’t be jazzed about hurrying his death along in any way.
They’re all about the nostalgic callbacks this season, and a “Please” from Rumple to gain Regina’s reluctant help in accomplishing his final goal really would be quite a poetic end to their relationship.
Isn’t suicide what we’re already dealing with for Rumple’s story this season though? His goal in life now is to figure out how to get himself mortal specifically so he can die and get back to Belle. Even if all the years instantly catch up to him when he relinquishes the Dagger and he drops dead right away, that’s still him committing suicide. Disturbing message or not, his story is that he’s making a concerted effort to see that his life comes to an end ASAP so he can see Belle again.
If someone says “I literally can’t live without this other person,” then it’s a warped and broken mess of emotions. It’s mental illness, not love, and it’s also manipulative in the extreme. Saying “I’m not getting what I want, so I’m going to kill myself” is the opposite of the giving that love is all about.
Rumpel wanted to get rid of the dagger decades (subjective time) before Belle’s death. The task probably seems more urgent to him now that he’s returned to the cruel world from his idyllic, stress-free cabin realm — Rumpel knows that he breaks under pressure, that he’s a ticking time bomb — so Belle’s death is part of why he’s doing what he’s doing now, but this quest isn’t about Belle.
It’s okay and normal to be really, really sad after a loss, and to hope to be reunited with departed family in an afterlife, but the dead, if they could speak, would not want their loved ones to hurry the process along.
If Disney is portraying suicide as some sort of ultimate romantic testimony, then they’re being — words fail me — irresponsible.
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