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I think that Rumpel wants to not be the dark one. I am not sure if he is trying to kill himself. Though, the writers might write all of that really badly. The dialogue surrounding what happens is regularly the real problem with what happens. How things are framed are a mess.
[adrotate group="5"]Isn’t suicide what we’re already dealing with for Rumple’s story this season though?
It depends how they handle Rumple’s death. There’s a young adult novel called Tuck Everlasting. It deals with the idea that living forever is not something to wish for but really a curse. Rumple might not want to kill himself. After all, he still has Gideon and Henry to consider. Rumple just doesn’t want to be immortal since it has become a burden to him. He has already lived for centuries. He might just want to die a natural death. I still don’t get why he just doesn’t go kiss Gideon on the forehead. True love’s kiss should break any curse! It should have with Belle. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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It depends how they handle Rumple’s death. There’s a young adult novel called Tuck Everlasting. It deals with the idea that living forever is not something to wish for but really a curse. Rumple might not want to kill himself. After all, he still has Gideon and Henry to consider. Rumple just doesn’t want to be immortal since it has become a burden to him. He has already lived for centuries. He might just want to die a natural death.
Sounds like the concept of “shanshu” (or however they spelled it) on Angel, which shares some writers with OUAT. (That show had a much better take on redemption and happy endings than OUAT has shown so far.)
I still don’t get why he just doesn’t go kiss Gideon on the forehead. True love’s kiss should break any curse! It should have with Belle. It makes no sense whatsoever.
I think it’s more of a “just-so story” than a law of physics. Some people saw it happen a few times — entirely reasonable, since people tend to kiss their loved ones during times of great sorrow and loss and all that — and came up with an idea to explain it, and since their explanation sounds cool it sticks around even when the hypothesis has been disproven.
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In Ouat true love’s kiss has broken many curses. The curse with Emma and Henry then later with Regina and Henry. Snow and Charming, true love kissed. Belle and Rumpel almost true love kissed, but Rumpel didn’t want it, so it stopped working halfway.
In Ouat true love’s kiss has broken many curses. The curse with Emma and Henry then later with Regina and Henry. Snow and Charming, true love kissed. Belle and Rumpel almost true love kissed, but Rumpel didn’t want it, so it stopped working halfway.
Sure, and that would give strength to the legend of True Love’s Kiss, like all of the craziness attributed to the full moon in the real world. No reason TLK has to really be that way in-universe, or that it has to be that way completely. Maybe it only works on certain kinds of curses. Maybe the Dark One isn’t even a curse; after all, it started as a backfired perversion of a blessing, not as a plan to deliberately hurt people.
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I think TLK clearly exists as a trope on OUAT. It’s just that the writers are not consistent because it is inconvenient for them to follow their own established laws of magic. We’ve seen in Skin Deep that the the dark one curse clearly is a curse that can be broken with TLK, but it stopped working when Rumple pulled away because he didn’t want it then. Later, however, Rumple’s dark one curse should have been easily broken by TLK with Belle once he decided that he didn’t want it anymore. Yes, it’s inconsistent, but the writers don’t care because of PLOT reasons. They just want to keep Rumple as the dark one for yet another season because they really don’t know what to do with him.
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I think TLK clearly exists as a trope on OUAT. It’s just that the writers are not consistent because it is inconvenient for them to follow their own established laws of magic. We’ve seen in Skin Deep that the the dark one curse clearly is a curse that can be broken with TLK, but it stopped working when Rumple pulled away because he didn’t want it then. Later, however, Rumple’s dark one curse should have been easily broken by TLK with Belle once he decided that he didn’t want it anymore.
In other words, the fact that TLK has repeatedly failed to break the Dark One curse is proof that it can break the Dark One curse? I don’t think the writers are being inconsistent about that.
TLK, when it works, is quick. There’s an instantaneous whoosh with a distinctive visual effect, and the curse is completely broken. That didn’t happen happen with Rumpel and Belle. Even their first kiss, which seemed to be slowly transforming him before he pulled away, had a different visual effect from the whoosh.
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In other words, the fact that TLK has repeatedly failed to break the Dark One curse is proof that it can break the Dark One curse? I don’t think the writers are being inconsistent about that.
I think the only reason it has repeatedly failed is because the writers don’t care about proper world building or consistency of their narrative. Regina clearly said that TLK can break any curse. I think that is the case (or at least was S1), but the writers just danced around the fact because they didn’t want to give Rumple and Belle a final TLK (nor Emma and Hook either) for some reason. Maybe both of those tales were meant to be cautionary tales.
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They should have just made Emma’s family special and have it only work with them. That is what they should have done. Or created some way that true love’s kiss anyone works at important moments and not just any old time.
TLK, when it works, is quick. There’s an instantaneous whoosh with a distinctive visual effect, and the curse is completely broken. That didn’t happen happen with Rumpel and Belle. Even their first kiss, which seemed to be slowly transforming him before he pulled away, had a different visual effect from the whoosh.
OUAT has shown this is how all curses (at least all curses I can think of) have ended. When Rumple killed his mom and ended her curse there was an instantaneous whoosh with a distinctive visual effect, and the curse was completely broken. I certainly don’t think that curse was broken out of or with true love. I do believe the rules may be different for the dark one and that the dark one’s essence would try and fight the curse which would make it slower process.
writers just danced around the fact because they didn’t want to give Rumple and Belle a final TLK
The writers like writing Rumple as the dark one and have no idea how to write him any other way that is why no TLK. They wanted to reform Rumple this season but still want to be able to say that he may make wonkey decisions and blame it on the curse. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
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