May 2, 2018 at 11:30 pm #347044
And then there were three….
What were you’re favorite and least favorite moments of this week’s episode “Is This Henry Mills?”"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 4, 2018 at 9:42 pm #347068AKAParticipant
So we went from a horrible episode last week to an OUTSTANDING episode this week. I loved this episode 9/10. Why can’t we always have writing like this!
Henry breaks the curse by kissing Regina on the forehead!!!!! I don’t think I could think of a better way to break the curse
Henry calling Henry actually brought tears to my eyes and both actors did a great job. I always thought they casted older Henry well, but you can totally see that in this episode. I had no problems accepting that both actors were Henry.
Throwback to Tiny with the bean, even if he did go to forgotten character island
Loved seeing Granny again who was helping Henry fix a car
Regina and Henry flashbacks were great and tied in perfectly with the current story.
Tilly: As always she did a great job. I loved her monologue about how Gothel chose hate but she would choose love.
Time Travel: Okay I was even okay with this explanation at least on my first watch of the episode. I can totally get that maybe Gothel brought them back to the past and it gives us an explanation of why they could not contact Storybrooke
Henry’s college essay was heart uplifting. I loved it and I liked how they used it in the background as they were showing us present day HH. Every time OUAT does this, I usually love it and this was definitely not an exception.
WR Rumple: Okay, since they brought back the WR I kept on thinking in the back of my mind, yeah and WR Rumple is just hanging out in WR? This just seemed so out of character for Rumple especially the Rumple who never had Belle. I actually got giddy when I saw him, although I must say the whole point of the ending of season 6 was Rumple vs. Imp Rumple and he won so why we are fighting that battle again I don’t know. I would love it if WR Rumple and Rumple teamed up to try and get him back to Belle, but I am pretty sure that is not the direction they are going.
Facilier: apparently now he is dead, and we have no idea why he wanted the dagger (was he just looking for power?) Why did he steal Rumple and Belle’s family album? I doubt we get any explanation of any of this but I would love one.
Rumple: So poor Rumple in the Henry monologue just looks sad and goes away (reminded me of Regina in season 2-3 when she would help save everyone and then be forgotten). As much as he would like to have a family with Henry, he really doesn’t and I don’t think that is going to really significantly change.
The message that Rumple is the weakest version of himself because he is not super villaney? What kind of sense does that make? I loved that Rumple actually thought twice before killing Facilier over a family album that he now had back. I will say when he stopped at first I thought Facilier had his dagger and was controlling him, but nope he was just making a good choice. Good Job Rumple!May 4, 2018 at 10:19 pm #347072
GENERAL: This was a really good episode and I enjoyed it a lot. I have a feeling @WickedRegal is gonna need some tissues, though. If it weren’t for all the Gothel stuff, it’d be sorta perfect because that part of this season just drags. Focusing on Henry is how it should be.
–My god, Jared grew up. Nostalgia time because I can still remember what an adorable little 10 year old he was.
–“Perhaps I should help the family I do have here.” <3 Rumple. Always.
–“They didn’t accept the real Henry Mills.” Okay, all season I’ve had trouble believing that Henry needs to go find his real story because that’s not how people talk or think. But this line makes it so much clearer how much of a lie Henry would have to live every single day of his life if he ever dared to step outside of the tiny Storybook hamlet.
–Henry made himself believe and broke his own curse by taking a giant leap of faith and calling his past self. “Home isn’t a place; it’s the people in it. And they will always be with you.” I actually started crying. The actors did a phenomenal job. It’s amazing that we’ve seen this boy grow up…
–Regina trying to smash Gothel’s head in with a bat is also how I feel about Gothel and her overall plan.
–Henry broke the curse by kissing Regina’s forehead. So beautiful. So full circle. So exactly what it needed to be. Henry is his mothers (both of them) son.
–Robin and Alice are the absolute best thing about this entire season. They are a ship that will live on in OUAT lore as one of its best.
–“You want to ruin me like the world ruined you; I’m not like you. I’m not an orphan or a street rat or a girl who’s lost her way….you chose hate. But I choose love.” Alice will go down as one of OUAT best single season characters. I’d give anything to have had more of her.
–Henry’s essay. I can’t. I’ve given this show so much (deserved) crap over the years but there are times that it reminds me why I’ve stuck it out. “As long as someone believes that…there will always be magic.”
–Hey, Tiana is still a thing on this show! Such a wasted character.
–Regina digging up a grave of a very recently dead woman to get a storybook is all manner or creepy and weird.
–This episode is a love letter to RegalBeliever and it’s beautiful. But it will always feel weird that Henry is having these monumental life crises and Emma isn’t there to co-parent with Regina.
–I have no idea how I feel about Wish Rumple as the final villain. Sell it to me well, OUAT. Make me believe.
–The witches are becoming trees. In an eternal grove. I mean…everything about this particular plot is dumb and weird and I wish it wasn’t happening and we could focus on the family and characters instead.
–The time travel paradoxes are insane and the show would be better if they just had everyone live in 2045-2050 and make the argument that technology didn’t advance much in 30 years. I just think it’s too complicated and full of holes.
–Suddenly this show became “Honey I Shrunk the Imp, the Captain, and the Archer.”
–Facilier’s sudden death is so unearned. We know nothing about him or what we wanted or what his connection to Regina is."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 4, 2018 at 10:30 pm #347077nonnieParticipant
I am thinking the writers did pretty good wrapping up this mess of a season … let us face it this story was written after they got the word the show was cancelled … they had to end it up some way… this was pretty good.
.May 4, 2018 at 10:49 pm #347083bibliophileParticipant
Yeah this was a good one at last. They gave us lot of little remembrances and filled in a few plot holes (though I dare say even with this jump backward in time 15-20 years the timeline is still a tangled mess). I loved seeing Granny and the bean from Tiny and at least a mention of Grumpy. But like the season opener when Henry rode off on August’s motorcycle with only Regina to say goodbye…I think Emma really would’ve been there. Shoot one scene out of order and have her giving Henry a hug in his cap and gown. That’s all they needed was a few seconds with Emma interacting with her son to make it all feel real.
The phone call was great. I enjoyed the interaction and the timey whimeyness of it all.
I’m glad Gothel is gone.
The shrinking thing was silly.
So so happy that Henry broke the curse by kissing his step-great grandma instead of Jacinda.
Why in all the hugging could not one person find a second to hug Rumple. The man clearly needs hugs. Lots of hugs.
Facilier had a lot of potential as a villain, but ultimately they did nothing with him and we’ll never even now why he wanted the dagger. Why he helped Lucy one day and locked up her family the next. I’m guessing he had a tragic childhood where a lot of mean blond girls in fancy dresses threw playing cards and pins or something at him and made him become a villain.
The ending was awesome. Double Rumple running amuck through (I assume/hope) Storybrooke is a dream for a Rumple fan. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into a nightmare later.May 4, 2018 at 10:53 pm #347086bibliophileParticipant
I am thinking the writers did pretty good wrapping up this mess of a season … let us face it this story was written after they got the word the show was cancelled … they had to end it up some way… this was pretty good. . .
I agree I think this episode was written after they knew. Possibly if there was an eighth season in the offing we would’ve seen Facilier as the final villain of S7 (complete with sad backstory) and they would’ve saved Wish Rumple for the series finale instead.May 4, 2018 at 11:23 pm #347091
I agree I think this episode was written after they knew
Possibly if there was an eighth season in the offing we would’ve seen Facilier as the final villain of S7
Yes and next week’s episode likely would have been Facilier’s backstory and how and Regina know each other. Then the finale would have been about taking down Facilier and suddenly a wild Wish Rumple appears to end the season."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 5, 2018 at 12:20 am #347093freytormParticipant
Rating 9.0 out of 10
I really liked this episode and puts the show in a good position to end on a right note. While their were some problems around the episode, overall it hit all the right emotional notes, especially with Lana and Andrew together in a scene.
the scene between henry and Regina as she desperately tried to wake him up was tear inducing. Regina realizing her son can’t even remember her and the fact that of how henry was particularly alone, depressed and destroyed as a person was so real and tragic and brought out completely into light was a tough watch. This scene alone shows the real life damage that this particular Dark curse has done, which elevated drastically the stakes for me of why it needs to be broken much more then gothel’s generic doomsday almost ending the world, with her nature apocalypse thing. stellar acting from those two.
The storybrooke scenes- best kind of nostalgia. definitely one of my favorites. Real life situations, mixed with fairytale antics is what we signed up for. Henry going off to college, graduating, and Regina actually doing mayor things was welcomed.
henry phone call. Whenever a character wakes up from a curse it usually makes for a good scene and this one was great. Surprisingly I enjoyed the older henry talking to the young, it was very heartwarming
loved how the curse was broken, all the characters on the same playing field, the reunions, Alice’s speech to gothel, and the plot moving forward in the right direction
wish rumple final antagonist, honestly concern aside on the execution it will have in the finale, this is a perfect way to finish off the show and makes a hell lot more sense then gothel, facilier, tremaine, or drizella even(despite liking her) that and Robert acting his ass off for the finale sounds like an ideal watch
-facilier, gothel, coven, all wrapped up and disposed of to make room for wish rumple. All lacked development,(facilier especially, and gothel was only alright enough at best, with a backstory that doesn’t make much sense at all, none for coven either. All of them a waste of time basically.
-weird not seeing Emma at all. I know Regina and Emma prob have like a every other week plan prob on where henry lives, but it would of been nice to see Emma share a moment with henry during this time
-I find it funny how Cinderella, Lucy, tiana, are prob benched for a good dose of the finale. These characters didn’t live up to potential for various reasons, and at least the writers are aware of putting the key players in front for finale.
nothing in particular annoyed me all that much. Even plot holes were filled in kinda decently. Where henry got his bean to leave storybrooke was answered, and while the curse sending them all back in time prob won’t add up if we analyze the timeline, it kinda makes sense. It’s a good reason why our characters couldnt have gone to storybrooke because it could screw up timelines and was a surprisingly innovative use of the curse on gothel’ endMay 5, 2018 at 12:29 am #347094GaultheriaParticipant
Facilier: apparently now he is dead, and we have no idea why he wanted the dagger (was he just looking for power?) Why did he steal Rumple and Belle’s family album?
I wonder if Facilier was Wish Realm Rumpel in disguise this whole time. It would explain Facilier’s interest in the dagger and the photo album, and it’d make his relationship with Regina than much, um, something-er.
Plus, alligators and crocodiles.
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This episode gave me chills
Rumple telling Nook that everything in Henry’s book is real
Henry remembering everything via phone call with younger Henry
The bean from Tiny
Henry breaking to curse with Regina
Tilly saving the day with papa Nook and Margot by her side
The return of Wish Rumple. I saw that scene and my only response was ‘OH DAMN’
I always thought that it was weird that Wish Rumple didn’t have a back up plan once he realized wish Snowing had won and Wish Regina wasn’t going to cast the curse. Our Rumple had squid ink but didn’t use it because he was ‘where he needed to be’ and I always wondered why wish Rumple never used squid ink to escape and create a new plan. So I’m glad Wish Rumple actually had a plan.
I liked the Storybrooke flashbacks but it did feel like Emma was missing.
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