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Yeah for years the writers have been accused of hating Belle/hating Rumbelle because of the abuse and poor stories hurled at them but when compared side by side the supposed “favorite” ship…. the episodes speak volumes.
I think that if Hook had lied to Emma for her own good, and maintained that lie through decades of marriage until his deathbed confession, that people would be pointing to it as proof of a toxic relationship.
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Yeah for years the writers have been accused of hating Belle/hating Rumbelle because of the abuse and poor stories hurled at them but when compared side by side the supposed “favorite” ship…. the episodes speak volumes.
I think that if Hook had lied to Emma for her own good, and maintained that lie through decades of marriage until his deathbed confession, that people would be pointing to it as proof of a toxic relationship.
I think the fact that Hook lied to Emma in every half season is proof enough.
"All your questions are pointless"
I think the fact that Hook lied to Emma in every half season is proof enough.
Do you think Belle and Rumpel are also toxic?
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I think the fact that Hook lied to Emma in every half season is proof enough.
Do you think Belle and Rumpel are also toxic?
Yes
"All your questions are pointless"
I also think that Rumple, Regina, Hook and Zelena are equally horrible and should be punished for their crimes.
I also think that Snow, David and Emma are hypocrites."All your questions are pointless"
Yeah. Charm seems to be what this show uses to define a hero or a sympathetic character.
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I am trying to figure how I feel about what Gideon’s life tells us about the time line.
Assuming (and it is probably safe to say that one should never assuming on this show 😉 ) that Gideon growing up did not travel through time-weird lands (don’t see why his parents would take him back to where his grandmother raised him, or back to Neverland :p but there could be other places other than the edge of all realms).
Henry at end of season 6 was ~15 years old, and Gideon was a newborn.
Gideon growing up and leaving for some post-secondary-school equivalent adds ~20 years. (Unless he was meant to be younger and they wanted to use the same actor).
Lucy growing adds at 10 more years to this time line, and that is assuming she is conceived very soon.
That makes Henry ~45 years old now! So it is ~2045 in Seattle! (unless this if fictional Seattle 😉 )
Emma & the Charmings are ~65. Regina is *at least* 75 (not counting time under the first curse). And Regina is at least 65 in the flashbacks.
Now, about Alice. *At least* late teens when she met up with Rumple after he left The Edge of All Realms, so at least late 20s now. If so she was born around the time the Wish Realm was created, though she could be older. If the theory is that she is Wish Hook’s father, do we think their paths likely crossed in the 10 years before the new curse was enacted?
Tonight we watched as Rumbelle came to an end after a life lived together, in love and happy, without magical aid. What did you think of the end to this popular ship? Did they do it justice? And what about Rumple’s refusal to use magic for the span of Belle’s life with him?
Last time we saw them, Rumple was being abusive again, and I said at the time that the two of them should stay apart. I still stand by this statement. If this episode had showed the reasons why Belle gave him another chance (reasons other than helping her save Gideon), then perhaps one foot would have been on board with this episode, but overall, I really didn’t like this episode because it hand-waved all his abuse away. So did this episode do it justice? No, it didn’t. I would have been better for them to be apart.
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I am trying to figure how I feel about what Gideon’s life tells us about the time line. Assuming (and it is probably safe to say that one should never assuming on this show
) that Gideon growing up did not travel through time-weird lands (don’t see why his parents would take him back to where his grandmother raised him, or back to Neverland :p but there could be other places other than the edge of all realms). Henry at end of season 6 was ~15 years old, and Gideon was a newborn. Gideon growing up and leaving for some post-secondary-school equivalent adds ~20 years. (Unless he was meant to be younger and they wanted to use the same actor). Lucy growing adds at 10 more years to this time line, and that is assuming she is conceived very soon. That makes Henry ~45 years old now! So it is ~2045 in Seattle! (unless this if fictional Seattle ) Emma & the Charmings are ~65. Regina is *at least* 75 (not counting time under the first curse). And Regina is at least 65 in the flashbacks. Now, about Alice. *At least* late teens when she met up with Rumple after he left The Edge of All Realms, so at least late 20s now. If so she was born around the time the Wish Realm was created, though she could be older. If the theory is that she is Wish Hook’s father, do we think their paths likely crossed in the 10 years before the new curse was enacted?You have beaten me to the punch, I was going to start a thread call RIP Timeline, because this ep has created a massive problem. We have had Gideon age minimum 17 years by the time Rumbelle head to to the edge of realms. So in this time no one in Storybrooke has aged to the point of any physical difference as we see when they all go after Henry.
There are multiple options to explain this (none of which are particularly good)
1. A lot of the travel time for our adventuring family is in realms that have varied time compared to Storybrooke, even though we only know of Neverland, The Dark Fairy Realm and possibly Wonderland being like this
2. EF now somehow has a timeline that does not run concurrently to Storybrooke, even if previously it has
3. The writer did think it fully through and the variation in aging between characters means nothing
Sadly number 3 is most likely correct, considering other continuity errors we have been seeing lately.
“The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett
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