October 29, 2017 at 7:34 am #343904PheeParticipant
I think that if Hook had lied to Emma for her own good, and maintained that lie through decades of marriage until his deathbed confession, that people would be pointing to it as proof of a toxic relationship.
Depends on the lie, who’s doing the lying, and their intent for doing it. Belle’s not known for lying with malicious intent so I’m inclined to believe that her heart was in the right place when she kept the true meaning of the prophecy from him, and as such I’m not inclined to judge her for it.October 29, 2017 at 7:39 am #343905PheeParticipant
I am trying to figure how I feel about what Gideon’s life tells us about the time line.
*passing you a bottle of Alice’s pills to help you forget all about the timeline*
Several seasons back when the timeline started getting wonky, we just ended up referring to it on the forums is as the T-word instead. I’m starting to feel that way again. “Timeline” is a bad word that causes upset!October 29, 2017 at 9:27 am #343907hjbauParticipant
I really think there is just no rhyme or reason to why Henry and Gideon look older. The timeline was messed up many seasons ago. There are many moments that don’t fit in the timeline and then the whole dark one backstory was a hot mess. It makes no sense that Regina and Hook are still the same exact age when it has been fifteen years since Henry left town in the present day scenes.
They aren’t going to explain this stuff. It just is what it is. They don’t think about anything like this ever anymore.October 29, 2017 at 10:37 am #343913RumplesGirlKeymaster
Oh, it’s definitely #3 that the writers haven’t thought out the timeline (T-word! memories….) and frankly that they don’t care too."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 29, 2017 at 11:16 am #343914sierraleoneParticipant
Maybe being in the dark fairy realm has some residual effects and despite everyone else growing older by a year each year (except Rumple, Hook, and the Regina) Gideon 2.0 was aging twice as fast 😉October 30, 2017 at 3:27 pm #343945thedarkonedearieParticipant
Yeah for years the writers have been accused of hating Belle/hating Rumbelle because of the abuse and poor stories hurled at them but when compared side by side the supposed “favorite” ship…. the episodes speak volumes.
Well to speak to this, they didn’t want to kill Emma off. They wanted Emma and Hook to live their life without any death. And then they had to come up with a convoluted way to keep Hook around bc they weren’t done with Colin yet. So yeah the stories are going to be different. I guess I just feel like the writers had more to work with in regards to Belle and Rumple than Hook and Emma. I don’t necessarily believe that these episodes prove that the writers’ had a favorite ship. That seems a little much.October 31, 2017 at 3:13 pm #344017October 31, 2017 at 4:20 pm #344020November 1, 2017 at 8:43 am #344025SlurpeezParticipant
While I thought Belle’s death was emotional and well acted, it only serves to further Rumple’s story. Sadly, how she lived is how she died: as a catalyst for Rumple’s story, rather than her own.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyNovember 1, 2017 at 10:56 am #344031GaultheriaParticipant
Sadly, how she lived is how she died: as a catalyst for Rumple’s story, rather than her own.
I think Belle from OUAT was only ever a placeholder to remind the audience of how much we liked the Disney animated movie. Since that extremely popular story had already wrapped up with its own “and they lived happily ever after”, there wasn’t anywhere for OUAT to go with Belle without angering the fans who like to freeze their favourite characters’ lives at a happy moment.
Rumpel combined two mythologies and his own OUAT backstory as a highly unpleasant character, so he wasn’t locked in to fans’ sentimental memories. If OUAT had merged Belle with Rapunzel — something season one definitely had potential to do — and explored her risk for Stockholm Syndrome, fans wouldn’t have been so upset at the thought that her life could continue to grow and change from that point.
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