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April 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm #140680kalliopekiseesParticipant
Tying August to the whole Rumple’s Son / Peter Pan Theory, Peter Pan was clawed (injured) by hook twice. Almost dies because of it. They never say where he was injured. Could have been a leg. Also TinkerBell is a fairy and Rumple (as we know) hates them.
I don’t know. Can’t wait to find out. I truely don’t want him to be Pinocchio. Never cared for that story.[adrotate group="5"]April 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm #140682cruel_fortunaParticipant
@Kisses: You don’t care for the original fairy tale or the Disney version?
Because – after reading the synopsis for the next ep. where there is mention of a donkey driver. That reminds me of when in the Disney version, where Pinocchio is turned into a donkey when he visits 'pleasure island'. It's actually a rather disturbing scene.April 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm #140683@midgemarlyParticipant
Why is the ‘delete post’ button not available?April 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm #140684kalliopekiseesParticipant
@Kisses: You don’t care for the original fairy tale or the Disney version?
Because – after reading the synopsis for the next ep. where there is mention of a donkey driver. That reminds me of when in the Disney version, where Pinocchio is turned into a donkey when he visits 'pleasure island'. It's actually a rather disturbing scene.
Both. I remember the Donkey scene. Funny you mention it as I think its what made me dislike the story so much. The story always leaves me with a bad feeling, even though it has a happy ending.April 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm #140686cruel_fortunaParticipant
@Kisses: The donkey scene never really scared me as a child but then again, that’s probably because I’d already been traumatized by pink elephants on parade. Therein, the donkey scene didn’t serve as any judging tool in regards to the movie. It did make for an interesting tongue-in cheek turned reality though. Though, perhaps you don’t like the story because it’s a cautionary tale which is far too implausible to begin within and too easily does away with common sense.
In regards to August though, I just see too many similarities for him to be Pinocchio, though I’ll happily eat my words when/if proven wrong.April 2, 2012 at 10:57 pm #140713the wizParticipant
August, Emma and Henry can all leave SB without the curse harming them. They are “in but not of” SB. Thus I doubt there’s a border at the Toll Bridge interfering with August’s movement. I’ve been thinking the curse that brings unhappy endings is strongest at the Toll Bridge and weakest at Granny’s B&B. So August had a moment of being “in and of” SB, falling under the curse — which he did not want to admit to himself or to Emma. Emma has the worst problem with falling under the curse – forgetting FTL entirely, doubting Henry’s book and spacing out her magical abilities.
In the new show intro, when the narrator asks who can break the curse, we are shown Emma, Henry and August. I suspect those three are family: mother, son and father. He’s so poetic about water because he was a fireman, and now feels how fluid and magical writing is. Once Emma remembers what Henry and August know about FTL and the curse, they will have the power to break the curse together.
I doubt August can be Baelfire or Pinocchio because then he would be trapped inside SB or could only escape into a limbo state like Jefferson/The Mad Hatter. I’m thinking his backstory in FTL begins after the curse is broken or he is only a baby in FTL like Emma when the curse took effect.April 3, 2012 at 6:03 am #140754SlurpeezParticipant
The scene in episode 18 when August had “shin splints” made me think there are two possible reasons: a) he had an old leg injury or b) he had a wooden leg. The first reason might be reconciled to the theory that August is Bae, since presumably, Bae could have been injured serving in the Ogre War. Yet, that doesn’t explain how Bae could be alive centuries later in SB. The second reason could be that August is actually Pinocchio and has some leftover wooden parts from his days as a puppet. Also, the idea that August says he never lies also resembles how Pinocchio said he never lied, but then did, as indicated by his growing nose. It was only when Pinocchio stopped telling lies that he became a “real boy” (which was hinted at in episode 16 when August said the stories were as real as him).
Also, as far as August is concerned, he is unaffected by the SB boundary. Assuming he is telling the truth, August has already traveled all over the world on his motorcycle. He is from outside of SB, and was unable to enter it until Emma came back to town. Perhaps, like Emma, he escaped from FTL to our world before the dark curse was unleashed. That way, he could be a fairy-tale character without being under the power of the curse.
the wiz wrote: So August had a moment of being “in and of” SB, falling under the curse — which he did not want to admit to himself or to Emma. Emma has the worst problem with falling under the curse – forgetting FTL entirely, doubting Henry’s book and spacing out her magical abilities.
Although the dark curse still exists in SB, the curse does not impact those who escaped from FTL into our world or were born in our world. Therefore, the curse does not affect Emma. According to Henry, she can enter SB and leave anytime she wants. She just doesn’t remember FTL or believe in it because she was a baby and was raised in our world where there is no magic. She doesn’t know she has magic until episode 17 because she never knew her true identity growing up. She didn’t know Sidney was lying because she let her emotions cloud her judgement.
Also, Henry, who was born in Phoenix, AZ, is not under the power of the curse. Although he lives in SB, he was aging in a town where time stood still (until Emma started the clock again). Henry believes in magic, because of the book and because he is a child who was raised amongst fairy-tale characters (though most of them are cursed and don’t remember).
Finally, August is able to come and go from SB. He is not under the curse, nor can he fall under the curse, because he most likely escaped the curse like Emma did before it reached his realm. He probably still remembers FTL though because he was old enough to remember it when he escaped into our world. He’s kept his knowledge of FTL and of the curse (without being affected by it) while living in our world.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyApril 3, 2012 at 11:30 am #140772hjbauParticipant
If August is Pinocchio why would he still have wooden parts? That doesn’t make sense to me.April 3, 2012 at 11:39 am #140775killianhookfanParticipant
Sometimes I wonder, as others have pointed out, if Kitsis and Horowitz scan the many forums to see what the popular theories are and add little things like the “shin splints” comment and moment to make people think “yep, Pinocchio” just to mess with us – when it will have NOTHING to do with Pinocchio or Peter Pan or a Lost Boy or Bae. It’s like with Ruby and the wolf. I think I saw one person somewhere who said they thought Ruby was the wolf but they only posted it once. The rest of the time we were obsessed with Dr. Whale – which they totally messed with us with the whole scene with Ruby leaving town with creeper Dr. Whale trying to pick up on her. So although I agree that I have seem numerous reasons to believe that August is Pinocchio, on this show I have come to realize if the evidence points to something – don’t look in that direction.April 3, 2012 at 11:43 am #140776hjbauParticipant
It is quite clear to me that the writers do exactly that. They put comments in just to mess with people and not because they are any sort of real clue. That is what makes me think August is not Pinocchio because there are too many clues in that direction. And the writers aren’t trying to help us figure out what is going on they are trying to confuse the issue.
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