August and his ankle?

[surayya]

@Phee wrote:

It’d be a terribly boring world if everyone saw everything in exactly the same way.

Lol, to a point I agree- there’d a lot less fighting & war if we all did agree a little more tho 😉
We had a psychology exercise a few yrs ago now, but the results stuck with me- out of 25 people there was 7 distinctly different interpretations of the exact same photo lol. It was interesting to understand the way the mind works in coming to the conclusions it makes- Me I have a highly logical & analytical brain, so any discrepancies tend to fly out & bug me if no logical explanation is forth coming lol 😉

I think she’s been shown to be a character who will do what needs to be done, even if it won’t win her friends. She had no qualms about stomping on Nova and Dreamy’s love with all the talk about how it simply COULD NOT happen, there’s just no way because it’s not the way the world works and she wasn’t ever gonna budge on that opinion, no matter how heartbroken they’d be, they just had to suck it up and get over it.

Much like she told Snow and Charming they’d have to suck it up and get over it that they’d be separated for 28 years. In the end, it’d all work out, and they’d be together again, and their separation was ultimately a temporary sacrifice for the good of ALL. If Blue Fairy did something to send Pinicchio with Emma, I believe that would have been her same line of thinking. She had to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes right now, so that the plan would work out in the long term. If she didn’t pull the wool over their eyes, the plan may fail and they’d all be doomed in the long run.

Well Ill be watching them all over again today & tomorrow, so maybe we’ll see what you’ve seen- but I really dont recall her “suck it up” attitude towards SW & PC in particular.
As far as Dreamy & Nova go – Nova’s deepest wish was to be a fairy god mother, so BF would be obligated to keep that wish for her- she didnt (from memory here- so I could be wrong & Ill edit after watching that ep later today if it is) actually say you CANNOT go with Nova period, she said IF you do, Nova will not have her dearest wish of becoming a Fairy god mother (or something along those lines). I just figured because Nova had created Dreamy by dropping fairy dust on him, Dreamy had to find his inner dwarf self & place rather than just ‘follow’ others around, he didnt say Nova- you know you will have to give up being a fairy god mother to do this, is it what you want? Because he was just following what he’d been told again, but then thats just my opinion lol

Would you accept the superficial reasoning that they had to be close in age so that they could cast a hottie for Emma to potentially hook up with when they were adults and they could become the next gen supercouple of the show? LOL

LOL!!! Well when you say it like that 😉

I don’t think Pinocchio being sent as a protector, who has grown into August who is the motivator, takes anything away from Emma being the saviour.

My point was that if more than person could travel through that wardrobe, the whole savior going through isnt a big deal anymore- esp if theres gonna be a bunch of FT land folk calling reality home with all their memories intact cause they went through a wardrobe that we clearly & repeatedly got told could take only one.
Personally I want to see August being special in someway I think, I think his name is a big clue & as we have his middle name I think that is a clue in its self as to who he really is 🙂

For all we know, Rumple was still imprisoned when the dark curse was unleashed.

Lol that was my point 😉

I better go have a shower before our OUaT marathon guests turn up 🙂

[Slurpeez]

@ Surayya: My point wasn’t to restate that Rumple was still imprisoned when the dark curse hit. Rather, it was to make the further point, that despite being in jail at that time, Rumple could have given a magic potion to Geppetto before he was imprisoned. Geppetto could have held onto the potion to give Pinocchio right before the curse reached FTL. If puppet Pinocchio were made of enchanted wood, he didn’t have to be transported via the wardrobe to our world. It doesn’t matter that Rumple was in jail then, because Rumple didn’t have to be present for Pinocchio to drink the potion and be turned back into a puppet. Back in ep. 5, Rumple wasn’t present when Geppetto’s parents drank the potion by mistake. Rumple had previously given the potion to Jimminy, saying he’d collect his payment (i.e. the puppets) after the fact.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

@Surayya wrote:

@Phee wrote:

It’d be a terribly boring world if everyone saw everything in exactly the same way.

Lol, to a point I agree- there’d a lot less fighting & war if we all did agree a little more tho 😉
We had a psychology exercise a few yrs ago now, but the results stuck with me- out of 25 people there was 7 distinctly different interpretations of the exact same photo lol. It was interesting to understand the way the mind works in coming to the conclusions it makes- Me I have a highly logical & analytical brain, so any discrepancies tend to fly out & bug me if no logical explanation is forth coming lol 😉

Ah, if only differing interpretations of TV shows was the closest we got to “war” in this world. It’s fascinating how we all see things differently though. I can be incredibly analytical too, but also let my imagination run away from me without making any attempt to reel it in, so can usually come up with some sort of reasoning for any discrepancies in logic. 😉

Well Ill be watching them all over again today & tomorrow, so maybe we’ll see what you’ve seen- but I really dont recall her “suck it up” attitude towards SW & PC in particular.

Well maybe not strictly “suck it up”, but she wasn’t out there deserately searching for other ways that could save more than one, though she knew Snow and Charming would HATE having to be separated. She was all, “This is it, the ONLY option.” So even though they didn’t like it, they had to accept it coz she was the authority on the situation and she wasn’t providing any other options.

As far as Dreamy & Nova go – Nova’s deepest wish was to be a fairy god mother, so BF would be obligated to keep that wish for her- she didnt (from memory here- so I could be wrong & Ill edit after watching that ep later today if it is) actually say you CANNOT go with Nova period, she said IF you do, Nova will not have her dearest wish of becoming a Fairy god mother (or something along those lines).

So she essentially laid a guilt trip on Dreamy to make him dump Nova because she wasn’t allowed to change her mind about wanting to be a Fairy Godmother if she wanted to be with Dreamy instead. (I haven’t re-watched this ep in a while either, just going off what I remember.) I wouldn’t wanna be on Blue Fairy’s bad side if this is how tough she is on people she likes. LOL

Would you accept the superficial reasoning that they had to be close in age so that they could cast a hottie for Emma to potentially hook up with when they were adults and they could become the next gen supercouple of the show? LOL

LOL!!! Well when you say it like that 😉

See, perfectly logical. 😆 Seriously, if I were Emma I’d be all, “Your pretty blue eyes are like the magical water from that lake that feeds the well. Whatever you say, I’ll believe you.” *swoon* 😉

I don’t think Pinocchio being sent as a protector, who has grown into August who is the motivator, takes anything away from Emma being the saviour.

My point was that if more than person could travel through that wardrobe, the whole savior going through isnt a big deal anymore- esp if theres gonna be a bunch of FT land folk calling reality home with all their memories intact cause they went through a wardrobe that we clearly & repeatedly got told could take only one.

I agree, it’d get ridiculous if it turns out a whole buncha folks could easily travel between FTL and our world, and that would diminish the integrity of the show. But I’m assuming that if August got away, he was a one off case.

Personally I want to see August being special in someway I think, I think his name is a big clue & as we have his middle name I think that is a clue in its self as to who he really is 🙂

Have you read about Wayne Booth the literary critic? That seems the obvious go to explanation for his middle and last name IMO. And the Grimms had a close friend named August who assisted them in their work, so I’m wondering if that’s where his first name is from. Those are fitting places to get the name of a character who is a writer who messes with a book of fairytales which dictates the main plot of the show.

[rumpel sylphs kin]

Question: were we able to discern which pages/story August changed in the book? Whatever he was doing and the reason behind it has got to be a key clue about his identity and purpose. Which leads to the next question: did he change the pages to mislead Henry and/or any other characters who know about/can explore the book, or did he change the pages in order to change some particulars about that story?

[pandoras imp]

I believe it was from the Golden Bird.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bird

Phee – I absolutely love that banner. 😆

[rumpel sylphs kin]

Thanks Imp.

I thought of a third possibility, that maybe he wasn’t changing pages, but adding pages? I’m certain there will be revealed more about why he was messing with the book, but could there also be a hidden clue about August’s nature (not identity) in the story they let us see him working on. Since August seems to offer advice, to Emma, Ruby, and Henry so far, might he be representing that his counsel is wise, as in the good fortune brought by the fox when his advice was heeded? Also note that at the end, when the fox was killed on the fox’s beseeching after he had helped bring about good things, he was revealed to be a prince who had been lost a great many years earlier. Now that may allude to Baelfire being possibly “lost” long ago to Rumple and to be returned to him.

I found a more expansive retelling here: http://www.authorama.com/grimms-fairy-tales-1.html.

[Phee]

Thanks, Pandora’s Imp. Someone on another forum called him that and I thought it was genius so I had to use it. 😉

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