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@the wiz wrote:
Thanks for starting this excellent thread, dearie, whoops, I mean Dreary!
LOL!!! 😆 😆 😆 Very clever!
I just don’t want him to be Pinicchio. I’d hate for the writers to make us wait all season just to find out that he’s Pinocchio. But if he is Pinocchio, then I hope he has a very interesting backstory to tell. I’ll try not to judge before watching the actual episode. Everyone thought Rumpel would be terrible as the Beast, but then…BOOM!!! FANGIRL EXPLOSION!!! 😆 😆 😆
So, the Pinocchio storyline might actually work I trust the writers. 😉
Yes, but the characters still retain the essence of who they are in the original stories. Snow White may be tougher- but she is still a beautiful young woman who is essentially good. Rumple didn’t have a love interest before- or a back story- but his personality echoes back to his original story.
Even if they did decide to take liberties with the Wizard of Oz story and make Oz young and smart and out of character, I think having August be the Wizard would be silly and wouldn’t fit in with the show at all. I don’t think the writers would pull something out of the blue like that. It just doesn’t make sense that a character who knows that the book is real and knows that he needs to get Emma to believe is actually someone who has no reason to be involved at all at this point.
If August is Pinocchio, he is a Pinocchio who left fairy tale world and grew up in our world so it makes sense that he might wear a leather jacket and ride a motorcycle. He still has some core traits of the character- insisting he doesn’t lie even though he does on occasion and talking about having faith and believing, all very much a part of the Pinocchio story.
@AngieBelle wrote:
Yes, but the characters still retain the essence of who they are in the original stories. Snow White may be tougher- but she is still a beautiful young woman who is essentially good. Rumple didn’t have a love interest before- or a back story- but his personality echoes back to his original story.
Even if they did decide to take liberties with the Wizard of Oz story and make Oz young and smart and out of character, I think having August be the Wizard would be silly and wouldn’t fit in with the show at all. I don’t think the writers would pull something out of the blue like that. It just doesn’t make sense that a character who knows that the book is real and knows that he needs to get Emma to believe is actually someone who has no reason to be involved at all at this point.
If August is Pinocchio, he is a Pinocchio who left fairy tale world and grew up in our world so it makes sense that he might wear a leather jacket and ride a motorcycle. He still has some core traits of the character- insisting he doesn’t lie even though he does on occasion and talking about having faith and believing, all very much a part of the Pinocchio story.
Hmm, it depends. The writers managed to make Beauty and the Beast fit into the storyline. They made Alice in Wonderland fit into the storyline too. We’ll have to see the episode to find out. 😉
That’s different- those are stand alone episodes and our first introduction to those characters, not a character who has been around for several episodes whom we aren’t sure where he fits but he is connected some how. I’m not saying we won’t see Oz in the future, but if we do- they will introduce us to it properly as they did with Wonderland.
Yes, I know- I could be completely wrong about all of this…but I get the impression the writers are pretty smart and know what they are doing.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
In episode 1×20, “The Stranger,” we will finally learn the true identity of August W. Booth. From all accounts, it would seem that he is indeed Pinocchio. Especially given the fact that the episode will feature Pinocchio’s background story. But what if it’s a red herring? What if the Pinocchio story is really a story within a story? What if Pinocchio’s story is blended with the story of the Wizard of Oz? Here’s my evidence for why August is indeed the Wizard of Oz.
-For one, August arrived during a storm. This was the first clue that made me think of. The storm in “True North” made me think of he infamous tornado in the Wizard of Oz. The Wizard himself even said that he arrived in Oz in a hot air balloon via a storm.
-August wears several curious pieces of jewelry, including: a metal bracelet, a gold chain bearing a golden claw or tooth-shaped pendant, and a silver cross-like object hanging from a longer silver chain. The metal bracelate could represent the Tin Man, the golden claw or tooth could be the Cowardly Lion, and the silver cross could represent the Scarecrow.
-As mentioned by others before, August is sporting a license plate on the back of his motorcycle that bears the name “Kansas.” This could also be a clue to him being connected to either Dorothy or Oz.
-When August told Emma in episode 1×18, “The Stable Boy,” that he was not a liar, that also could have been a clue to him being Oz. Most people interpreted this line as evidence that he is in fact Pinocchio, because we all know that Pinocchio’s main theme was lying. However, to a certain extent, so was Oz’s. When Dorothy and her friends finally meet the great and power Wizard of Oz, it is revealed that he is not in fact a wizard or some omniscient being, but a man. Just a man. He lied. He lied to his people by telling them that he was a powerful wizard. He even went so far as to hide his true face by using, literally, smoke and mirrors.
-Pinocchio’s desire is to be a real boy. But in the Once Upon a Time universe, who would be able to grant that wish? Rumpelstiltskin? Sure, but he’s always in the middle of every fairytale, so maybe the writers use someone different. The Evil Queen? Hmm, maybe. But why would she help a poor man and his wooden puppet? Maybe Oz was the one who turned him into a real boy. Oz has already shown himself to be someone who can give non-humans beings human attributes. He gave the Scarecrow a diploma, to symbolize his brain. He gave the Tin Man a token heart-shaped clock, to represent his large heart. And he gave the Cowardly Lion a medal to represent his resurfacing courage. So, what if our writers take these symbols as literal human attributes? What if the writers present Oz as someone who can literally turn the non-human into an actual human?
-In episode 1×17, “Hat Trick,” we were introduced to the Mad Hatter and his magic hat. Inside this hat are numerous different worlds. One of which we already know as Wonderland. However, there were several different doors to several different worlds. One of the doors that caught my attention was the green door. This door is probably Oz. Green to symbolize the Emerald City and in fact, Oz himself. The introduction of this magic hat was not an accident. The writers want us to remember this hat and its numerous doors for a reason. We’ll probably revisit these doors in future episodes in the forms of Oz, or possibly even Neverland. So, the writers are probably preparing us to see what’s behind these doors in the near future.
-In the promo for episode 1×19. “The Return,” August is seen challenging Mr. Gold by pointing the dagger of the Dark One at him. This could be interpretted as two powerful sorcerers battling off to see who is the most powerful. Rumpelstiltskin is the Oz of his realm. He is the most powerful being in Fairytale land. Maybe August wants to undo all the evil Rumpel ahs done.
-And finally, why would the writers have us wait all season to learn who the infamous stranger is only to find out that he’s Pinocchio? That would be ridiculously anti-climactic. Making us wait all season for Oz? Yes! Or making us wait for Peter Pan? Sure! But for Pinocchio? Uh…no.
I am flabbergasted right now!!! 😮 😮 😮 It never even occurred to me that August could be Oz. I actually hope it’s true. I know’s it kind of out there, but it’s better than him being Pinocchio. Pinocchio in a leather jacket? Weirdness. 😯
You know what would be bad a**, the season finale an actual “storm” comes and there’s a tornado (even though it’s Maine) and the tornado takes everyone to a different world and season 2 we start over, except we’re in the new world, whether it be Neverland, Wonderland, etc. They could do that at the end of each season and theyre always trying to break the curse so it stops and they go back to FTL.
Woah, I kind of just have myself the chills. I don’t know if the characters would have their knowledge of everything or have to regain it but that seems like it would be very original and could keep the series going. And also introduce all the other characters in the different worlds.
@jondavidcarroll wrote:
You know what would be bad a**, the season finale an actual “storm” comes and there’s a tornado (even though it’s Maine) and the tornado takes everyone to a different world and season 2 we start over, except we’re in the new world, whether it be Neverland, Wonderland, etc. They could do that at the end of each season and theyre always trying to break the curse so it stops and they go back to FTL.
Woah, I kind of just have myself the chills. I don’t know if the characters would have their knowledge of everything or have to regain it but that seems like it would be very original and could keep the series going. And also introduce all the other characters in the different worlds.
I would love for that to happen!!! We need to see more worlds. There’s of course, Fairytale land, Storybrooke, Wonderland, but then there’s Oz and Neverland. Future seasons are going to be amazing.
The Wizard of Oz wouldn’t remember. And he wouldn’t be able to leave Storybrooke. Remember why the Mad Hatter remembered? He was mad! Regina enacted the curse. Rumplestiltskin created the curse. The Wizard of Oz wasn’t any of those things. And even if he could remember, it wouldn’t explain why he could leave Storybrooke. Don’t you think that if anyone could remember, the ones would magic (i.e. fairies) would remember? The Wizard of Oz has no reason to remember. He would either have had to be mad, Rumplestiltskin in disguise, Rumplestiltskin’s long-lost twin brohter, Cora Wizard or Regina’s dead love.
Speaking of which, how powerful is the magic of Lake Nostros? Could it even bring back the dead?
Oh, I forgot something, the likely explanation: The blue fairy hid someone else, which also means August was someone in the castle at the time Regina enacted the curse.
UGH!!! Finally! I’ve been waiting for someone to make a thread like this! Even though I would love for August to be Bae, I could totally see him as the Wizard of Oz. The storm, the license plate, the lemurs, the jewelry… I noticed all of this! But I wasn’t sure if it was all just a red herring. I hope it’s true. The more powerful people in Storybrooke the better. I love having all these titans on the show. 😀
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