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Personally, I think the only acceptable way she should forgive him is if he willingly gives up his curse. No cleaving, no holding onto his DO powers. Flat out curse removal…mortal, ordinary man. I have a feeling his opal ring is tied to the reason TLK doesn’t work with them, but what do I know. (And TLK does work in Storybrooke because Snow kissed Charming awake in Season 2).
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So the latest Rumbelle teaser today made me wonder, should Belle forgive Rumple? What are everyone’s thoughts on this? Myself, I think Belle’s forgiveness should be hard-fought. It’s not just her forgiveness, her trust in Rumple is broken as well and it’s difficult to maintain a relationship (any kind of relationship) without trust. Other question, is Rumple deserving of Belle’s forgiveness?
Answer to both questions: no More complicated answer: It would be a bold decision on the part of A and E to show that sometimes “true love” is not enough. That true love is not some magical cure all against law, justice, common sense, and morality. I know it’s a show but the onus should be on ONCE to try and show that, indeed, there are some things you cannot come back from. Rumple broke her heart, broke her trust, and *hurt* other people with no consideration to anyone but himself. I don’t care that it’s “a fairy tale” putting them back together after all that leaves a rancid taste in mouth when millions of women are trapped in abusive and troubling relationships and feel like they can’t get out. A and E should really try to be “bold” and say that no–you have a choice. You can choose to not go back. You can choose to understand that love does not save the freaking day.
I really, truly hope that this is the case for Belle and Rumple. At this point, I don’t think Rumple is deserving of a happy ending at all.
I also would like to see Belle stand on her own as well. I think Belle can be a powerful and strong character on her own, given the opportunity. Plus, I think it would send a strong message if she doesn’t go back to Rumple at all. I think if she does go back to him, it negates what she did at the town line and then, she really is a doormat for Rumple. That he can get away with anything and she’d take him back. For whatever.
Personally, I think the only acceptable way she should forgive him is if he willingly gives up his curse. No cleaving, no holding onto his DO powers. Flat out curse removal…mortal, ordinary man. I have a feeling his opal ring is tied to the reason TLK doesn’t work with them, but what do I know. (And TLK does work in Storybrooke because Snow kissed Charming awake in Season 2).
This is nice in theory but power is Rumple’s true love. I think it’ll be very difficult for him to let go of that altogether. I think he still thinks that he can still have it all and that’s what the quest for the author will be about for him. He wants Belle and he still wants the power and thinks he can have both. He’s still making the same mistakes and hasn’t learned anything.
This is nice in theory but power is Rumple’s true love. I think it’ll be very difficult for him to let go of that altogether. I think he still thinks that he can still have it all and that’s what the quest for the author will be about for him. He wants Belle and he still wants the power and thinks he can have both. He’s still making the same mistakes and hasn’t learned anything.
I disagree about Rumple’s true love being power. Here’s the thing though, Rumple believes that he needs magic and power to protect his loved ones for various reasons and so far that belief has only been reinforced by the other characters.
Whenever something goes wrong in town, all the other characters run to Rumple for a magical solution. Snowing are a prime example of this. You can’t really say to someone “you should give up magic” only to run to them later on and say “we need you to use magic to help us”. The heroes can’t have it both ways.
The real question is, is Rumple being set up to fail by the heroes? They want the use of his magic when it’s convenient for them, but they don’t want him to free himself from the dagger so that he can keep his power yet not risk being controlled.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixPersonally, I think the only acceptable way she should forgive him is if he willingly gives up his curse. No cleaving, no holding onto his DO powers. Flat out curse removal…mortal, ordinary man.
I agree 100%. Rumple is a power addict. The only opurtunity for him to rekindle his relationship with Belle is staying sober.
I think Belle would be able to forgive him. The question is- will that be enough? It’s easier to forgive than to forget. Sometimes forgivness is not enough.
I think Belle would be able to forgive him. The question is- will that be enough? It’s easier to forgive than to forget. Sometimes forgivness is not enough.
Why do I get images of a situation where something will happen in town and Belle will accuse Rumple of being behind it even though he is innocent?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI loved, loved what RG said here.
But with Once, I don’t see that happening. I am all for redemption and I DO believe a person can change, and like Keb said, there is a good man within rumple beneath all his crap, but for how long can Rumpel play this game before one gets tired of it.
Well 1) I believe in all that too, but that does not mean that Belle *has* to go back to him just because he redeemed himself or something. Forgiveness =/ = forgetting. And even thought they love each other deeply, Rumple did some horrible horrible horrible things.
2) Yes I know there is a good man within Rumple. Guys, it’s me. I was co-captain of the Rumple defense squad, three years running here. I know what kind of man he is. But he’s also a man who was given a second chance, saw the price of magic as he watched his son die on the cold hard ground, and then decided to go super duper evil but never once invokes his son’s name and memory and the pain of losing him as a reason why.
Everyone seems to be taking away Belle’s agency here. It’s all “so long as Rumple proves he has really changed, she’ll take him back.” Look, I don’t doubt for a second that A and E will put them back together. They aren’t exactly concerned with morality or sending a positive message to their young female viewers who are getting about 10000000 confusing messages about romantic true love from A and E. But that doesn’t mean that it’s a good story. He *murdered* people. Without remorse. After being given a second chance. This show has never strictly been just a fairy tale. It’s about how those fairy tales operate in our world. And I’m sorry but if the message is “this is your fairy tale!” then what the *hell* kind of philosophy is that for the millions upon millions of women who are trapped in the same kind of hell…”buck up ladies. this is your fairy tale.” It’s not just a show…it’s our culture. And it should reflect the kind of morals and ethics and judgements we would want upheld in the real world. Why? Because if you want to change the way society operates, then start changing the culture and the way we digest it.
But none of this matters. I *want* Rumple to live. I want him to find inner peace. But I think Belle taking him back because “it’s true love” is a horrifying message to send
Sorry to interrupt…whatever is going on in here but I saw this picture and thought it was so cute that I wanted to post it 😛 I guess you can say I saw….Something There xP badum tsss.
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Anyway, I want to see Rumple redeem himself before Belle takes him back, but I want to see him win her back by the end of the show, one way or another.
He’s done very very bad things, but I don’t want him to be beyond redemption. I don’t want her to suffer forever because her heart went out to someone beyond redemption.
If it’s impossible for him to ever be redeemed, the story for his character (and, sadly, hers as they’ve set her up) is just as much over as if he were fully redeemed and fully good.
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So this seemed the best place for this confession: Even as people are declaring the Rumbelle stuff in Enter the Dragon awful or OOC, I’m going…I loved it. And I think it’s physically impossible for me to stop loving Rumbelle at this point.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
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