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PoC characters get disposed of proportionately far more often than white characters. I’d wager this is true of wider television too(it’s certainly true of queer characters).
When you talk about “PoC characters get disposed of proportionately far more often than white characters”, are you talking about in terms of all the POC characters get written out in some form or 10 POC characters have been written out as opposed to so many white characters?
Slurpeez wrote: Ariel, Wendy, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Ruby, Archie, Dr. Whale All of these people got their happy endings (maybe not Dr. Whale…?) and have often come back to the show. They are not treated like props to be disposed of when the show is done. They keep coming back or being referenced in order to flesh them out more. Even recently, Ella was mentioned in passing. When was the last time we heard about Rapunzel?
But my point was those “happy endings” were also rushed, sloppy and only served to prop up the core 6 characters. I’m not justifying the lack of racial diversity. My point though is that every secondary character is just a prop. The lack of diversity and the treatment of minority characters won’t improve until (1) the writers learn how to incorporate past characters (e.g. Lancelot, Mulan) and/or (2) cast a POC as a new regular next season (e.g. Aladin and Jasmine)
Agreed. Tinkerbell just disappeared off the face of the earth and isn’t seen or mentioned now. I hope we see Mulan again, there is more story potential for her. I’d also like to see the core characters actually interact with people around the town.
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Keeper of FelixQuestion about racial diversity among the core cast: Are we talking actual race or skin colour?
That’s an important distinction.
Lana is latina so there is some diversity but she’s a white latina therefore the core cast is all white?
There’s also Robert. Scottish is very, very, very Not English, neither of which are ethnically or culturally homogeneous.
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Unintentional racism is still racism. Do I think A and E are setting out to be racist? No. Certainly not. But the way they write the PoC on this show does come across as being unintentionally racist, with no one it the writing room realizing it. It’s an issue when every single PoC on the show is being treated the way they are being treated.
I can see your point however I wouldn’t necessarily call it racism for the reason that racism is bullying based on someone’s race or skin colour. Bullying is the persistent and DELIBERATE intent to belittle and cause feelings of negativity and low self-worth in others. Whilst the lack of POC certainly does seem to be a recurring thing, if A&E aren’t deliberately doing it then it’s not bullying which means it’s not racism. But I can totally see why it does appear that way.
And the story they keep writing is that PoC are easily disposed of or secretly white people. It’s…an issue.
It is an issue but there also plenty of white characters that just disappear and what not so it’s not just an issue that’s relegated to POC characters.
Zelena being alive does not necessitate Marian dying in the way past, or as someone else put it, before the show actually had to deal with her in any meaningful way. She spent most of 4A passed out, and then in her big return: she’s been dead all along and is really a white woman. And on top of this, we actually saw a really strong woman in Marian in the EF flashbacks. It’s insult to injury.
Again I think it’s more a case of A&E didn’t know what to do with Marian beyond using her as an obstacle for OQ which backfired on them rather than them deliberately side-lining Marian because she’s a POC. Quote
ugh. i like that you used a white woman clapping too.
And this is how currently how I feel about this thread. So done. That we apparently have to snipe at each other over what gifs we use to express our emotions.yes, because criticism of inappropriate usage of gifs, unlike racism, represents a real social issue people should be upset about.
if you don’t have something relevant to add then please don’t reply. this is a forum for discussion, adding +1s only makes it frustrating for the person you’re arguing with.
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There’s also Robert. Scottish is very, very, very Not English, neither of which are ethnically or culturally homogeneous.
Scottish still falls under Caucasian (White).
In other news. I think we all need to take a brief step back. We’ve got hurt feelings, anger, and a lot of bolded words going on. I’m just as guilty as anyone since this is a hot button issue and one I care about. But I think it would be good if we all…cooled our jets for a moment. Quote
I agree.
Cyrus, despite being part-Latino and therefore a minority, was nowhere close to being Arab.
I thought Peter Gadiot was well cast for the role as Cyrus. He looks a lot like my Iranian friend.
Cyrus looks nothing close to the other…Agrabanians(?). And yeah, he may be a POC, but not the kind I think would be living in Agrabah.
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But the issues are no less divisive for not being immediately visible.
(And some caucasian ethnic groups have extremely dark skin.)
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Let’s not forget to add Mulan to the list. Where is she exactly? She joined Robin Hood and his gang of merry men (er, people) at the end of 3×3 after she found out Aurora was expecting a baby. Now Robin Hood’s gang are camping in the woods of SB. Are we to believe Mulan is there too? She seems to have dropped off of the map.
She’s on another show. Not excusing it, but many of the POC are on other shows and availability is limited.
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yes, because criticism of inappropriate usage of gifs, unlike racism, represents a real social issue people should be upset about.
if you don’t have something relevant to add then please don’t reply. this is a forum for discussion, adding +1s only makes it frustrating for the person you’re arguing with.
The gif obisgirl used wasn’t inappropriate and is perfectly within the forum rules.
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And this is how currently how I feel about this thread. So done. That we apparently have to snipe at each other over what gifs we use to express our emotions.
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