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I’ve been fixated on the question of who Hook’s father is for a while now (Hook’s name is Killian Jones, so I was thinking Davy Jones). When Hook talked about his father in 222, about his being a fugitive who abandoned him, I couldn’t help but think of this crazy theory: What if Rumple’s father and Hook’s father are the same person? I’m not suggesting they’re brothers (at least not full, biological ones), but couldn’t Rumple’s father have become a fugitive after running from service in the Ogre Wars (or whatever war he ran from)? Then, perhaps he found a young or infant Killian (or started a new family), and tried to run with him, but wound up having to abandon him too when his pursuers got too close. I know it’s crazy, but you have to admit that Rumple and Hook’s stories are similarly sad. And it’s not like brother trying to kill brother is an unheard-of theme or anything. Plus, I want Hook to be a part of the CharmingStiltskin family!
[adrotate group="5"]I was very intrigued that we got Hook’s back story (at least a small portion) last night.
I like the idea of Hook’s father finding him (whether it’s Rumple’s father I don’t know). I always imagined Hook being a lost prince who didn’t know his true identity.
If it is Rumple’s father (similar parallels, I agree) then Hook is Bae’s uncle and Henry’s great uncle. Thus putting him on the CharmingStiltskin Family Tree and then the entire regular cast is one big family (Belle being Rumple’s one true love).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"This is a very interesting idea to consider. I like the idea that they are somehow related.
Hook definitely craves some semblance of family, I was amazed at his willingness to care for Bae because of Milah, his desire to create a family with Bae, and his willingness to change. So many parallels to Regina and Henry. Since we know he can’t get Milah back, finding his place in a family might be his happy ending, even if it includes Rumple. I continually chuckle at the opportunity this group has to kill each other, but never seem to follow through. Mad and bickering with each other until an outsider steps in and attacks one of them, then they all turn on the “outsider” and unite to fight. So much like many families I have met over the years. 🙂
@StorybrookeGirl wrote:
I’ve been fixated on the question of who Hook’s father is for a while now (Hook’s name is Killian Jones, so I was thinking Davy Jones). When Hook talked about his father in 222, about his being a fugitive who abandoned him, I couldn’t help but think of this crazy theory: What if Rumple’s father and Hook’s father are the same person? I’m not suggesting they’re brothers (at least not full, biological ones), but couldn’t Rumple’s father have become a fugitive after running from service in the Ogre Wars (or whatever war he ran from)? Then, perhaps he found a young or infant Killian (or started a new family), and tried to run with him, but wound up having to abandon him too when his pursuers got too close. I know it’s crazy, but you have to admit that Rumple and Hook’s stories are similarly sad. And it’s not like brother trying to kill brother is an unheard-of theme or anything. Plus, I want Hook to be a part of the CharmingStiltskin family!
This thought occurred to me too, but more than that, it also occurred he may also be Greg'sfather. If Hook’s revenge objective is seeing it’s end, I hope season 3 sees Hook looking for (or at least learning more about) his father, and seeing his heart and life develop as he learns to live outside an introspective realm of “self”.
I don’t think it is a crazy theory. As Hook told the story this was my first reaction. Oh my god that sounds a lot like Rumples dad. I love the idea that they have the same father. It is like Inuyasha and Sesshomaru and it would really fit into Henrys family tree. Only the Captain Swan shipper would be sad, because that would mean Emma would fall in love with Henrys Uncle. That would be weird. So I am glad that I am a swanfire shipper and Captain Evil, because then she would be his aunt too. 😀
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Is it even confirmed that story is meant to be legit? I’m thinking here he could’ve concocted that to get Baelfire to sympathize with him and spill the beans regarding Rumple.
@Demileto wrote:
Is it even confirmed that story is meant to be legit? I’m thinking here he could’ve concocted that to get Baelfire to sympathize with him and spill the beans regarding Rumple.
Oh nice. Bae did tell him during their first meeting that his father had left him. Hook could have easily played on those emotions in order to elicit a confession. I rather hope Hook wouldn’t be that devious because I was really touched by that scene and I go back and forth a lot with Hook but you make an excellent point.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think it was a legitimate moment for Hook. He was asking the questions because he wanted answers sure but I think he really connected with Bae in that moment and it probably made him even more angry with Rumple than he already was because not only had he killed Milah and taken Hook’s hand but he also left his son and chose being the Dark One over him, after ranting at Milah about leaving Bae. It added fuel to the fire in my opinion and I do think that Hook had some sort of sad story like in that his background.
You could tell he had a LOT of emotion going on in this episode. He was much more serious and thoughtful in this ep, studying the picture of Milah etc. Any time he gets like that is because something is getting to him emotionally. The flirtiness / sassiness / pirate swagger is a facade for a very troubled man so this backstory didn’t surprise me at all.
Interesting idea that he and Rumple could be half-siblings. I’m inclined to believe that most fairy tale characters have back stories that are somewhat sad and usually involve parents / abandonment but it’s possible I guess.
As for it making everybody happy but the CaptainSwan people I’m not sure even that would rule out anything. Emma & Hook aren’t related by blood, he never married Milah, she never married Bae and it would just give them another layer to it (like Regina being Henry’s adoptive mother but also his step-great-grandmother). Basically it’s a screwed up family tree so why not add a little more chaos to the mix! (I can see the same being possible with the EvilCaptain stuff too, it adds another layer to the already dysfunctional tree for Regina as well – great-aunt lol).
For right now I don’t see it as him being related but I suppose it would be interesting. Definitely rule nothing out with this show unless they show you a reason to. It would be mildly amusing to have Hook be Bae’s uncle, Henry’s great-uncle but I’m not sure I’d love to see the sibling rivalry taken to a whole new level between Hook & Rumple, especially if it messes with my CaptainSwan pairing in any way down the line but not ruling it out.
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@Demileto wrote:
Is it even confirmed that story is meant to be legit? I’m thinking here he could’ve concocted that to get Baelfire to sympathize with him and spill the beans regarding Rumple.
When he first started talking, I was thinking it was heartfelt. By the end of the scene, I was convinced he’d made it up to scam Bae into spilling info. Hook already suspected who Bae was, but he couldn’t straight up ask him, “So, I’m guessing your papa’s Rumple and your mama’s Milah?” So instead he concocted a story for himself that he felt would strike a chord with Bae enough to get him to tell him what he needed to know.
I do think there’s some tragic story to do with Killian’s parents, I’m just not convinced that this was it.
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@Demileto wrote:
Is it even confirmed that story is meant to be legit? I’m thinking here he could’ve concocted that to get Baelfire to sympathize with him and spill the beans regarding Rumple.
When he first started talking, I was thinking it was heartfelt. By the end of the scene, I was convinced he’d made it up to scam Bae into spilling info. Hook already suspected who Bae was, but he couldn’t straight up ask him, “So, I’m guessing your papa’s Rumple and your mama’s Milah?” So instead he concocted a story for himself that he felt would strike a chord with Bae enough to get him to tell him what he needed to know.
I do think there’s some tragic story to do with Killian’s parents, I’m just not convinced that this was it.
I too have been questioning whether Hook was being honest here. When I first watched it I thought it was genuine but second time round I am more inclined to go with Phee.
However, it could also be possible that he knew his own story would be enough to get Bae talking (so he told the truth), alternatively, he could have seen this as his only chance apart from with Milah (presumably), to be honest about himself. It is difficult to tell because he seemed to be very conflicted between wanting to be good and getting revenge.
I do like this theory and it didn’t even cross my mind that it could have been the same person as Rumple’s father. They would have to add another seat to the Thanksgiving dinner table.
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