Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[Phee]

Is it weird that I felt the most genuine Neal emotions in tonight’s episode (apart from Rumple, of course) came from Hook? If I didn’t feel as though those scenes were cynically setting up CS and stepdaddy Hook, I would have actually liked them unreservedly. Colin played it with a suitable amount of subdued guilt, and he actually for once seemed more concern with Bae’s legacy than anything ulterior involving Emma.

I mean, I still think he’s a long way from being consistently written, but it’s something.

Gotta admit, I half tuned out for those scenes, because the poor excuse for a CaptainFire scene last week had left a bad taste. Maybe if it had have included an apology for having turned him over to Pan, then it wouldn’t bug me so much that Hook is chilling with Henry and making like he and his dad were always buddies, but the fact that Hook hasn’t accepted responsibility for the crap he did to Bae has become a pet peeve. Maybe I need to rewatch these scenes and properly pay attention this time, to see if I can read any guilt in his expression.

Judging by the promo for next week, Zelena does seem to possibly be familiar with Hook, and while if Hook has known stuff and not told everyone I’ll appreciate that because it would be a return to his two faced S2 self which is when he was interesting to me, I’ll also probably be calling for his head, because he knew stuff that could have helped, could have prevented Neal’s death, and he didn’t do it. He’d have let Neal down again, in the worst possible way, and then tried to be buddies with his son in the aftermath. And if that’s the case, they’d better bloody well not gloss over it, they’d better show him accept responsibility and endeavour to make up for it somehow.

[Cinders]

Is it weird that I felt the most genuine Neal emotions in tonight’s episode (apart from Rumple, of course) came from Hook? If I didn’t feel as though those scenes were cynically setting up CS and stepdaddy Hook, I would have actually liked them unreservedly. Colin played it with a suitable amount of subdued guilt, and he actually for once seemed more concern with Bae’s legacy than anything ulterior involving Emma.

I mean, I still think he’s a long way from being consistently written, but it’s something.

I agree with you. If you take away any mistrust you may have of Hook, and just listen to the words, Hook and Henry were expressing genuine emotions about the loss of Henry’s father. Their conversation was cathartic to each of them, and I truely believe that Neal would have been happy that Hook took the time to console his son. Neal and Henry really are a lot alike, as Hook said.
I also agree with Hook when he advised Emma to tell Henry the truth about his father. But Emma’s walls are so high, higher than ever, that she doesn’t listen.

[Onyx]

You guys… 🙁 The funeral. No one spoke up. No one said how much they’re gonna miss him or how much he meant to them. Which if one has hope could interpret as they can’t write that stuff because it’s not his actual real funeral and he’s coming back and then all the goodbyes would feel silly and they don’t want to “waste” powerful dialogue on something that’s soon to be reversed.

But uhm honestly I think the reason is the same as why we still don’t know all the finer details about a truck load of other stuff. Time. They had to have the great showdown, they had to have Zelena’s backstory. They just had to have a whole lot of other things happening, crammed in one episode and they simply didn’t take the time (even the damn wake was interrupted) for it. One would think, if not at the funeral then certainly at the wake people would express their feelings with more than silence and sad looks. Or am I  too demanding?

Is it weird that I felt the most genuine Neal emotions in tonight’s episode (apart from Rumple, of course) came from Hook? If I didn’t feel as though those scenes were cynically setting up CS and stepdaddy Hook, I would have actually liked them unreservedly. Colin played it with a suitable amount of subdued guilt, and he actually for once seemed more concern with Bae’s legacy than anything ulterior involving Emma. I mean, I still think he’s a long way from being consistently written, but it’s something.

Is it bad that I actually kinda agree with this? It could be because Hook has the most to regret when it comes to Bae and once he did feel genuine affection for him, until he screwed it up (giving him to Pan). Everyone else didn’t really know that much about him.

And Rumple… don’t even get me started on him. 🙁

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[lecygne]

You guys… The funeral. No one spoke up. No one said how much they’re gonna miss him or how much he meant to them. Which if one has hope could interpret as they can’t write that stuff because it’s not his actual real funeral and he’s coming back and then all the goodbyes would feel silly and they don’t want to “waste” powerful dialogue on something that’s soon to be reversed.

Not much has been said on Twitter along these lines either… hmmmm…

But uhm honestly I think the reason is the same as why we still don’t know all the finer details about a truck load of other stuff. Time.

This annoys me. They’re either wandering around with a bunch of nothing going on or they’re rushing through to the finish. Pacing, people.

[Onyx]

This annoys me. They’re either wandering around with a bunch of nothing going on or they’re rushing through to the finish. Pacing, people.

True, like that Medusa story line from a while back. That was precious airtime that could’ve been used for something with more substance. Something significant. They act like they can afford to have fillers. How about explaining all the stuff left swept under the rug? “Fill” your time with addressing some of those things, I’d say.

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[Rainbow]

Good morning everyone

Heather hope you cousin get better.

Also, i didnt saw it, although i laugh a lot on the chat, not this one, but the other, but what crap episode.

Also yesterday at the chat i said and  now i say it again, the writers are the same from last year, but the writing is nothing like last year, is like there is no connection in storylines, from last year, and this year is also appears that each episode is like a new story, no link to previous episodes.

Im still angry that they they went and burried Neal without Rumple being there, they could have waited for him to decide what to do with the body, also neal is gone, so we will not remenber him again,why, he doesnt matter.Well they already done this last year, so this year was just gets get over.

Also didnt saw any reason the death. I know PLOT.

Is my opinion that this proofs that was actor asking out, the others should take an example, bc MRJ was probably on his house yesterday, laughing at the episode and thinking never should have enter in this show, the best decison i made was to leave.

Then rumple is already in OC way, He was, so not trying to change anything after everything he did.

Just hope people dont get all hopes up, bc i already saw people saying they will change the past, so neal will come back, everyone can come back but not neal, bc neal is in the middle of CS, they will probably erase Bae/Neal from the past, make rumple dead and alwasy with milah, so never meet Belle and they will erase henry, because, or in last option will make him hook and emma son.

On this past there is no Bug, no dreamcatcher and aparently emma is not wearing the necklace in some pics, at least according to the persons that saw the pics.

about next week promo, saw it, and regret in the instant minute

im already seing CS relation, hook watching over emma and is all happy like nothing happened, i would past that they kiss next week,and that line from Hook, i cannot forget what happen was about the kiss, also while he says this OC emma present , almost like gigling, when the popular and hot boy says he likes her. What is the thing with Ariel, so appeared on 310 they didnt meet and now they did, in fact appear like they had a thing and she was angry bc he didnt want anything with her, and on 306 is regina that gives her legs to go with eric, and on 317 she works in a bar. What? Ok, is official they simply are rewriting this and go to sites like FFnet to copy the fans fiction. Also, if the kiss in not next week, maybe is in episodes after, bc there is a rumour of a CS on 320, that probably is true bc god know this show has a track of kept secrets that doesnt end

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[theoniongirl]

I can’t help it, I keep doing it …

Didn’t see the episode, but I did read the spoilers. Were the words “second chance” actually used in respect to Zelena’s plan? Because whose poster had the those same words on it?

If they’re stringing us along, they’re going a good job of it. Ugh.

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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan Thomas

[lecygne]

If they’re stringing us along, they’re going a good job of it. Ugh.

I feel like I’m stringing myself along, and it’s easy to do here in my little SF hidey-hole.

Outside this little cove, so many people apparently think that this BOLD story is acceptable and even good. I just wish A&E had at least made it palatable for SF fans if it truly had to happen. There were ways to keep me from leaving the show. Being honest for one.

[Rainbow]

theoniongirl and lecygne, i agree with you, i feel that now A/E are just torturing us SFer and neal fans, they toss things that can make us feel hope, but the reality is that for us i dont think there is any, and they say that to make us keep watching the show, i thought they were carzy , crap writers but i must say they have the minds of Peter Pan, they are actually playing mind games with us, making us doubt the things we see, read and listen, they are literaly  cracking us to the point we dont know if we should see and have hope, or dont see and loose all the hope.

After everything they done to us, they simply are being cruel, malicious, like a cat playing with the mousse before killing him for good.

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[Onyx]

@theoniongirl:

Yes Zelena used those words in fact. But I’m refusing to have hope. It’s a dangerous thing to have when it comes to this show. Don’t wanna set myself up for disappointment.

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