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Didn’t see the episode, but I did read the spoilers. Were the words “second chance” actually used in respect to Zelena’s plan? Because whose poster had the those same words on it?
Zelena said that to Rumple, yes. “What I’m casting isn’t a curse. It’s a second chance.”
The bit in the promo where Emma seems to be laughing does annoy me, but at the same time I have to wonder if the “can’t pretend it didn’t happen” conversation with Hook might actually be him telling her she has to grieve properly, instead of just trying to ignore the pain. The shot of her laughing is through a window, like someone’s watching her, and if there’s someone who would be creeping on Emma, it’d be Hook.
[adrotate group="5"]This annoys me. They’re either wandering around with a bunch of nothing going on or they’re rushing through to the finish. Pacing, people.
True, like that Medusa story line from a while back. That was precious airtime that could’ve been used for something with more substance. Something significant. They act like they can afford to have fillers. How about explaining all the stuff left swept under the rug? “Fill” your time with addressing some of those things, I’d say.
I personally didn’t like The Tower much and tho evil Charming was interesting, I think they could have done it differently and added some more backstory or something else for Neal. I still think it was a disservice to him and what a great actor he is. They didn’t use him to even a tenth of his full potential. What a waste.
On another note, some of my friends and family (just GA viewers, never look up spoilers or anything) that know that I am upset about Neal’s death don’t understand why I’m upset. They all seriously believe he’s coming back. They don’t think this death is permanent. I wonder if most of the GA feels that way as well. It would be interesting to find out. And I’m not saying that he will come back (I’m sure he won’t be) but if he doesn’t by the end of season 3, I wonder how many will quit the show over the summer hiatus? I just wonder. I suppose it also depends on who the big bad of season 4 will be. Oh well, now I’m just rambling on about nothing. 🙁
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."I wonder how many will quit the show over the summer hiatus? I just wonder. I suppose it also depends on who the big bad of season 4 will be. Oh well, now I’m just rambling on about nothing. 🙁
That’s an interesting point. See I have this thing where I have to know how it all ends. Once I’m invested in a story I have to keep watching, because my curiosity is way too strong. It’d be like reading a book and then stopping in the middle of it. I’d never know how it ends. So I can’t really abandon it. The only way that would happen is if the show starts to bore me, but with characters like Regina and Rumpelstiltskin I am still interested enough to keep watching.
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If Zelena succeeds and gets her “second chance” it will: still mean that Neal is gone. If her intention is to go back in time and change the past so that she was never abandoned, and I have the timeline right, Milah will still be dead, Rumple will still be the Dark One, and Baelfire and Hook will still be in Neverland. Bae shouldn’t have escaped Neverland (or at least come to the LWM until at least 7 years into the Dark Curse, going off of if Neal was actually around 25 physically when he met Emma). So if Zelena’s sole intention is to go back and change HER OWN personal history, then the things that happened more than a century before her birth should still theoretically stand, and if Rumple’s son is brought back to life then he should be Baelfire, not Neal. Either way you look at it Neal is probably still dead, which I hate. I love Baelfire, but I love Neal more. If anyone was to be resurrected then I’d want it to be Neal.
But if the spoiler photos from filming are to be believed (and interpreted through this theory), then Zelena must be changing more than just everything from her own birth onwards, since Hook is playing the dapper gentleman or something, instead of a leather and eyeliner aficionado with an obsession with revenge. Maybe he challenged Rumple to a glove slap off and won?
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I honestly don’t know what to make of the spoiler photos of 321 and 322. They confound me. But someone in one of the other threads, I think, suggested that people got sent to an AU where they were the opposite of what they currently were. Like Emma was a peasant (albeit a beautiful one) instead of princess, Hook was a gentleman instead of a pirate, and so on. And then there’s another theory that Zelena changes the past so that Regina was never born. They’re both interesting ideas except that A&E have always said that there would be NO timetraveling. But you know, they run the show and they can change stuff at any time, but it makes me not believe a word they say now, honestly.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."I said this in chat last night, but if Zelean succeeds in her second chance thing then there will be some magic loophole that prevents Neal from coming back. Because he doesn’t get a second chance, right?
And to the Hook/Henry scenes. There was a certain amount of tenderness and sweetness to them, but for me, it was overshadowed by the fact that I don’t have amnesia. I remember everything Hook’s ever done, including giving Bae to the Lost Boys. This will never be addressed on screen and that bugs me. He needs to give some exposition about how he tried to go after Bae or how horrible he feels. But right now it’s coming off as “I raised Bae like a loving step-papa” while forgetting everything Hook did.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."I don’t exactly want time travel, but then again, pretty much everyone likened the scene of Hook at Emma’s door to be like Back To The Future, so maybe they did have time travel planned. Then people are saying that Emma will go back in time to make sure her parents still meet even though there’s no Regina. But if there’s no Regina, then why is Snow dressed in her Bandit costume, because no Regina means no need for Snow to go Bandit. And wouldn’t a destined love like Snowing still happen anyway no matter if other things changed, without Emma having to go back and make sure it happened? So I dunno that the time travel theory necessarily makes sense or is likely.
I don’t think it’s time travel. I think it’s going to be an AU. Everything that has happened has happened for a reason because if it didn’t then the world would look like this. I suspect it’s an AU-dream and someone is gonna get TLK to wake them up
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"And to the Hook/Henry scenes. There was a certain amount of tenderness and sweetness to them, but for me, it was overshadowed by the fact that I don’t have amnesia. I remember everything Hook’s ever done, including giving Bae to the Lost Boys. This will never be addressed on screen and that bugs me. He needs to give some exposition about how he tried to go after Bae or how horrible he feels. But right now it’s coming off as “I raised Bae like a loving step-papa” while forgetting everything Hook did.
Yep, THIS! With Neal gone, Hook himself is the only person who knows what truly happened between them, and he’s acting like it didn’t happen and their relationship was all sunshine and roses. Maybe they’re doing that because they want the audience to forget, (sorry if they are, because plenty of us ain’t forgetting ever), or maybe they’re doing it because Hook will eventually reach a breaking point and actually come clean about it. Obviously we’d prefer the latter. It would actually serve as some legit character development for Hook if he accepted that responsibility. I wouldn’t be willing to bet money on it being the latter though, unfortunately.
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