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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • April 10, 2014 at 6:20 pm #260674
    PriceofMagic
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    Actually, no, pom. This is not a story about real life drama. Ouat from 101 till 315 was a beautiful story. It was definitely about hope and happy endings. That is why I loved it. But now, all the characters will be ooc just so that ON SCREEN it will look like they are actually “happy”.

    This story never made any logical sense, but I still always LOVED it because it made emotional sense and poetic sense, maybe.

    You know what it is? Now it is nothing but a pretty people with good acting skills show. It is no longer a story with any sort of substance. It is a who can be more entertaining on screen contest, where the winner gets to live and some how, totally ooc to the original character, will have a “happy ending”. Not a believable one of course, but one that will look good on screen.

    This is a tragic story. If the writers don’t keep it tragic, than this is nonsense.

    And yes, the ONLY possible conclusion to a tragety of this magnitute is that all the characters, ESPECIALLY Gold/Rumple will suffer. It’s the only conclusion that makes emotional sense or poetic sense. Heck, its the only conclusion that even makes logical sense.

    There is NO WAY that anyone will ever believe in a rumbelle happy ending. Such a thing is not possible in this story.

    Emma might try to “be happy” for Neal’s sake, but after losing so much, even she and Henry will not be

    What sort of message is that Marty?

    You go through terrible loss and hardship, and your life is crap until the day you die? You don’t get good moments, all the other people you care about are meaningless and don’t deserve to get any form of happy ending because one person you all knew dies?

    I get you’re upset about Neal, nobody wanted Neal to die at all, but the show was not all about Neal, it is not about any one character. Let me ask you this, if Neal had lived and someone else had died, should all the other characters suffer for the rest of their days including Neal? Rumple “died” in 311, aside from us diehard oncers who checked out BTS spoilers and such, as far as the general audience and characters knew Rumple was dead. Did that stop Snowing from getting their happy ending? No. Should Neal have never got his happy ending because his dad was dead? No.

    This story is still about hope. Emma and Neal’s story took place in the real world, therefore their “fairytale” would be based in reality and in real life, it’s not all happily ever afters. But there is the chance to move on and find happiness elsewhere.

    I would have loved to see Neal and Emma work together to parent Henry, but it was not meant to be. Neal was killed off, now whether that was planned from the start (looking back through 3A, there are moments that could be said to foreshadow what happened in 315) or whether it was BTS issues and what not, there is no need to make other characters suffer just because the death wasn’t who you wanted it to be.

    Fairytales themselves are an exploration of real life issues through stories. When Beauty and The Beast was written, arranged marriages were a lot more common than they are today. The story was written to reassure brides to be that there new husband wasn’t a monster. SwanFire is a modern fairytale. Lots of people relate to those two characters because they see elements of themselves in them.

    If you were Emma watching the show, and your child’s father, who you loved deeply once but things happened and the relationship got complicated, recently died, would you want the message that things will eventually get better, that you can move on and find happiness elsewhere? or would you prefer the message that since your first love is dead, you are never going to be happy again, you are going to live the rest of your life in misery and you will never ever find love again?

    This is still a story of hope and happy endings but I get why you may not see it that way.

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    April 10, 2014 at 6:27 pm #260676
    RumplesGirl
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    Exactly. Some people don’t understand that we criticise some aspects of the show because we love it. I put an end to the conversation on the FB page because I don’t want to have a fight with anybody, it just makes me sad when people say I’m inventing things… This forum is so much more peaceful…

    EXACTLY.

    I have devoted so much of my time and energy to this show, that to be slapped in the face like we were in 315 just brings to light all the other things that I’ve apologized for in the past because it was my favorite show but no longer can because I’m standing in the harsh light of day.

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 6:53 pm #260682
    Rainbow
    Participant

    I just saw Sneak Peek #2 on the OUAF FB page, and I said that Hook is a bit OOC and that the writers are starting to mess up their characters (I don’t think I need to convince you on that point, that’s pretty much what we’ve been saying for 2 weeks). When the woman who runs the page answered me, I started to wonder why I bothered to say something : “I think that the writers who actually invented these characters know what they would and wouldn’t do. They can’t be ‘messing up’ their own inventions. They are simply telling the story they want to tell, regardless of whether or not it pleases everyone.” I’m really sick of all those people who agree with everything the writers do and say, just because…they’re the writers, nothing else. And I’m also sick of their favourite argument “you’re not the writer, so you cannot say anything negative about the way they write the story”. I don’t know if we watch the same show. I just guess it takes all kinds to make a world…

    About the people from that site, i have to say they are very biased towards Hook, to the point that some time ago, bc the 312 aired, they put something about Cs, and a friend of mine said something on twiter and their anwser was how do you know emma loves neal and not hook, and my friend say to them, check the epi 221,304, 306 , bc you probably dont see the show, their awnser , they erase their tweet, on another situation, also with my friend, they posted something about cs, bc ABC posted on their fb, and my friend made a critic that abc should post from other characters, their anwser, you dont do promotion, hook gets the more likes on our fb, and my friend anwsered, i was talking about ABC fb page, unless you and abc are the same, in that case the critic is for both, you represent all fans, so should not be biased, their answer again, erased their tweet.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    April 10, 2014 at 7:32 pm #260691
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:34 pm #260693
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    https://www.tumblr.com/swanthiefire/82330931071/emma-neal-appreciation-week-day-07-favorite

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm #260694
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    https://www.tumblr.com/swanthiefire/82330077582/oneworksbetter-a-necklace-it-was-emmas

    Born of True Love

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:36 pm #260696
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    https://www.tumblr.com/swanthiefire/82329792440/lostboybae-i-dont-know-how-it-survived-the

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:38 pm #260697
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    https://www.tumblr.com/swanthiefire/82328566127/emma-neal-faceless

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:41 pm #260698
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    https://twitter.com/SwanThiefVids/status/453513125749608448

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 10, 2014 at 7:42 pm #260699
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    The #swanfire story ❤ pic.twitter.com/wi11nELPNi

    — Claire (@catelynnstark) April 5, 2014

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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