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I agree with @Phee and@Rainbow. The graveyard scene bothers me more than it pleases me.
And that seems to be the first thing he does after getting married–before his honeymoon–so he’s being true to his character in putting his son first again. That much I was pleased to see.
Well that’s not true. Belle and Rumple got married at night, this is day. They did some honeymoon stuff before going to see Neal.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"They did some honeymoon stuff before going to see Neal.
“They did some honeymoon stuff…” Sorry, I’ve just spent way too much time in the Rumbelle tag on tumblr and I guess I’m still enough of a Rumbelle fangirl to giggle at this.
A common theme I’ve seen a number of places, is that while it may be interesting to see Frozen and how they adapt it to the show, looking at Leroy the Town Crier, so many realize how much the original cast of misfits is missed. Snowing got five seconds of screentime along with Henry, Ruby and Granny were completely missing, and the rest of the dwarves are who knows where.
I miss season one before they got the all clear to “take all their toys off the shelf.” I teach preschool and know that when you allow kids to take everything off the shelves they flit around and forget about whatever they originally were playing with then get angry when when you make them return and put it away. Just saying….
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
After reading all your reactions, it seems like I didn’t miss all that much. Just for kicks, I read Lily Spark’s excellently snarky review.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The wrongs of this show about that grave scene, the fact that Henry not once mention his father, or how the recap, gave neal haters what they wanted, he was nobody on the show. Not going to mention the infinite number of plot holes. Not even mention,Emma, so no ship in this, ok, maybe in the end.
Neal died like 4/5 ago, now i dont know if there are people with children on this thread, bc hearing from them would me easy. Also many people, say that neal dead brought realism to the show,so in that case the characters have to act with realism, as well.
In a Au scenario( not on fairy tale world), you have one child only( in this case doesnt matter the age, can be a child, teen, grown up, and the same for your age), in this scenario, the child father is dead , long time ago, and you have a boyfriend or girlfriend( to not ignore genders) that you love very much, and your son is dying(in this case to be close to neal case, he got involve with someone that was partially responsable for his death)since you are not near him/her, and talk by phone and he asks you to be happy after his/her dead. and then dies.
You are not present at the funeral, bc like i said you werent there. When you arrive, like 4/5 days after, and can honestly say to me that the 1st thing to do is ask your love to marry you, then kill the person responsable for your son death, go to some party given by some friends, then marry and only after you go to honeymoon, you visit your child grave, and in a speach, that said to much and too less, and dont say well you now i have this person, so not alone now that you died, almost no emotion ( that a situation like this requires), in which world this is realistic, want realistic, 1st place to go after you arrive is your child grave, not any other places, and act like nothing happened.If we look to the 5 stages of grief, no way Rumple or Henry did them in 4/5 days.
The stages, popularly known by the acronym DABDA, include:[2]
Denial — As the reality of loss is hard to face, one of the first reactions to follow the loss is Denial. The person is trying to shut out the reality or magnitude of his/her situation, and begins to develop a false, preferable reality.
Anger — Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. The person in question can be angry with himself, or with others, or at a higher power, and especially those who are close to them. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: “Why me? It’s not fair!”; “How can this happen to me?”; ‘”Who is to blame?”; “Why would God let this happen?”
Bargaining — The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow undo or avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Other times, they will use anything valuable as a bargaining chip against another human agency to extend or prolong the life they live. In essence, the individual cannot totally move into acceptance yet acknowledges the fact that what has happened cannot be undone. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example, one may say “Can we still be friends?” when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it is a matter of life or death.
Depression — “I’m so sad, why bother with anything?”; “I’m going to die soon so what’s the point?”; “I miss my loved one, why go on?”
During the fourth stage, the grieving person begins to understand the certainty of death. Much like the existential concept of The Void, the idea of living becomes pointless. Things begin to lose meaning to the griever. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and sullen. This process allows the grieving person to disconnect from things of love and affection, possibly in an attempt to avoid further trauma. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the ‘aftermath’. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It is natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation. Oftentimes, this is the ideal path to take, to find closure and make their ways to the fifth step, Acceptance.Acceptance — “It’s going to be okay.”; “I can’t fight it, I may as well prepare for it.”
In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person’s situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief. This typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable mindset.Sorry to be so big, but in a recap of the show recap and what i heard( didnt saw thank god) from the episode, the fact that they seemed to forget to explain the new viewers, who is Neal to rumple, and that he is henry father, had to use the grave scene to look for the realism that many say Neal dead was meant to shown, and how everyone one with connections to Neal, appears to have move on, like 5 days after, and act like nothing ever happened, and how the Charmings( acting in the writers name, in act of insensitivity with the baby name mean to say there is no problem with the name( neal or baelfire), bc the others dont care Neal died,so lets move on).
Note: also when i say the characters didnt do this, i mean to say that characters are played by actors that are performing a script, so all flaws about this scene, go to the team of writers, bc the characters belong to the actors, but they before came to life by the writers hands.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
If we look to the 5 stages of grief, no way Rumple or Henry did them in 4/5 days.
It has been how many months since Neal died…and I’m still in the anger phase.
The less I say about that hour long recap the better.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Okay, I know alot of my SFers and Ranchers will strongly disagree with me on this, but I won’t criticize how Rumple or Henry mourns, although I will criticize the writers. I’ve lost three members of my immediate family and each time was complete different. You don’t always go through the stages of grief in order, or a certain time period. Sometimes you skip around, sometimes it’s delayed, and sometimes you regress competely. In real life, you have no idea how you`ll react. In real life, you have to return to work after the funeral. Life goes on much more quickly than you would like it to. And at the end of the day it’s a fiction show about a fictional character.
The thing that perplexes me the most is that darn headstone. If we’re talking realism, that stone wouldn’t even be there for a few months (yes, it takes that long).
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
Double post, you can delete if you want.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
The thing that perplexes me the most is that darn headstone. If we’re talking realism, that stone wouldn’t even be there for a few months (yes, it takes that long).
It would also say more than beloved son
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Phee yeah what I love about Nealfire is that he would not want his father to Kill Zelena even if she contributed to his death with a nicely laid trap for a man desperate to reunite with the two loves of his life. He would never want his father to ever killed in his name, he didn’t like it as a child, he didn’t like it as adult. Nealfire didn’t want anyone to be killed for him.
sniffles Neal Cassidy is better than you.
As for the recap: I don’t understand this show, they proclaim that Nealfire was always meant to die, that he died a hero, that he sacrifice his life to save them all. Even if he was a “glorified plot point” as proclaimed, if he didn’t die for CS. Then why the erasure of him from the recap and the dvd. Why is not Baelfire aka Neal Cassidy, not getting a shot out about how this character influence so many people and has a great effect on those around him. He is Rumple’s son, Henry’s father, and Emma’s love. Why isn’t he being honored, why isn’t MRJ being honored or respected as being this so called “Oncer 4 life” and friend to all. It confuses me to no end.
They love Neal and MRJ so much but don’t mention him at all in the recap or the dvd as an important character to the series. Its just disrespectful to MRJ and all his work.
Okay mini bitter rant over
So anyway Nealfire was a good man who would never ever want to see someone killed in his name, but Lord Ba’el is the opposite of him. He will come with darkness and rage mingled with blood, tears, sulfur and brimstone.
Let fire rain down
yes still on Dark Lord Baelfire kick. 😀
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Regina wants to ensure all the villains get their happy endings? Does that list of villains include Maleficent, Peter Pan, Zelena and Cora? Because they’re all supposed to be dead. Hook and Rumple already seem to have their romantic interests, though doubtful Rumple will get his son back. This show really is Once Upon a Misunderstood Villain, where good guys are lampooned as useless nitwits, while the villains stand on the graves of their victims. Will Regina successfully remove Marian, or will ‘fate’ intervene to kill off an innocent mother the way it did Henry’s father? And now Emma wants to ensure Regina, the woman responsible for her growing up without her parents, gets her happy ending, but couldn’t be bothered to save Neal, the guy responsible for getting her home multiple times. *sigh*
So anyway Nealfire was a good man who would never ever want to see someone killed in his name, but Lord Ba’el is the opposite of him. He will come with darkness and rage mingled with blood, tears, sulfur and brimstone.
Yes, let’s make Neal into the Dark Lord Ba’el, the ultimate villain. At least, that way he’ll be ensured his own happy ending.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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