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April 10, 2015 at 2:22 pm #301155
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ParticipantWhy can’t the other characters actually give Neal’s things to his father instead of palming it off to whoever they choose. Seriously, the lack of compassion from the “heroes” towards Rumple after Neal’s death is staggering. I know Rumple’s done some less than stellar things, but at least have the heroes attempt to reach out even if it’s to try and dissuade Rumple from a course of action with a “What would Baelfire want you to do?”
Even Henry was using the memory of Baelfire to manipulate his grandfather, Rumple, so that he could help Regina find out more about the Author. While Henry being concerned with Regina’s happy ending is sweet, him doing so by only pretending to be interested in his father and paternal grandfather is totally disrespectful to his father’s memory. Baelfire was better than that, and he helped save Henry more than once. It’s just a terrible shame Henry never got to say goodbye to his dad. And while Rumple is growing ever more into the Dark One, and therefore the antithesis of the Savior, no one, not even Belle, has been interested to understand why Rumple is doing all of these unspeakable and horrible things. Instead, Belle was seeking to control Rumple the way Zelena did. Did Belle not stop to think that doing so was like shooting a gun in the presence of someone with PTSD? I’m not justifying Rumple’s horrible treatment of Belle, but her treatment of him was also really callous, given that she should’ve known better than to jump into marriage with someone as unstable and troubled by grief and darkness as Rumple.
Why couldn’t we get an emotional scene of Rumple actually going to his son’s apartment after Neal’s death?
Because that would show Rumple’s sympathetic human side. The writers really don’t seem to want the audience (whose viewpoint is usually reflected from that of Emma or Henry) to question Rumple’s motives anymore. Neal was killed off to (1) make CS into a couple and (2) make Rumple into an evil villain for the sake of evil (without bothering to show WHY anymore). Neal, and to a lesser extent Belle, were the humanizing parts of Rumple. Henry could’ve been that for Rumple, but instead the relationship we were promised during the summer (e.g. ‘Rumple and Henry will bond’) didn’t happen. Instead, the scene of Henry and Rumple talking about memory, magic and Baelfire was deleted from 3×2. Instead, what was presented was Rumple only wanting to save Henry from Ingrid’s Spell of Shattered Sight as an afterthought. The writers have failed to show Henry and Rumple really bonding over the loss of Neal, because then the audience is reminded of the great importance of Baelfire to the story. Then Rumple wouldn’t be such a terrible person and antagonist to precious Killy Willy Poo and Emma. So much wasted opportunity!
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April 10, 2015 at 3:00 pm #301159RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhy can’t the other characters actually give Neal’s things to his father instead of palming it off to whoever they choose. Seriously, the lack of compassion from the “heroes” towards Rumple after Neal’s death is staggering. I know Rumple’s done some less than stellar things, but at least have the heroes attempt to reach out even if it’s to try and dissuade Rumple from a course of action with a “What would Baelfire want you to do?”
Because that would fly in the face of all the Neal erasure they’re doing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 10, 2015 at 3:26 pm #301164nevermore
ParticipantThen Rumple wouldn’t be such a terrible person and antagonist to precious Killy Willy Poo and Emma. So much wasted opportunity!
This, here, made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
April 11, 2015 at 8:24 am #301208RumplesGirl
KeymasterHappy Saturday!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 12, 2015 at 9:07 am #301228RumplesGirl
KeymasterHappy Sunday!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 12, 2015 at 9:56 am #301230Phee
ParticipantYa know, I’m not even dreading today’s ep, even with that bit that was in the sneak peek that’s quite rage inducing, I’m just so completely MEH about the prospect of watching this ep.
April 12, 2015 at 11:37 am #301236Slurpeez
ParticipantYa know, I’m not even dreading today’s ep, even with that bit that was in the sneak peek that’s quite rage inducing, I’m just so completely MEH about the prospect of watching this ep.
Likewise. I didn’t even miss the drama last week. Today’s episode is just one more to get through. I’ve (almost) come to expect disrespect of Neal’s memory. The plot of this episode just doesn’t excite me. I could care less about the “shocking” revelation that Marian is Zelena, whom I really disliked.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 12, 2015 at 12:56 pm #301238WickedRegal
ParticipantYa know, I’m not even dreading today’s ep, even with that bit that was in the sneak peek that’s quite rage inducing, I’m just so completely MEH about the prospect of watching this ep.
Likewise. I didn’t even miss the drama last week. Today’s episode is just one more to get through. I’ve (almost) come to expect disrespect of Neal’s memory. The plot of this episode just doesn’t excite me. I could care less about the “shocking” revelation that Marian is Zelena, whom I really disliked.
Ah…but there’s another shocker that Sean Maguire says no one sees coming….that’s the one I’m a little worried about.
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April 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm #301239TheWatcher
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Ah…but there’s another shocker that Sean Maguire says no one sees coming….that’s the one I’m a little worried about.
Is it different than the Zelena=Marian one?? If so, that may be interesting. Or incredibly bad. Like it could turn out Marian doesn’t actually exist and Zelena was her the ENTIRE time Robin knew her which means that Roland is actually ZELENA’S son and not Marian’s . So yeah. Imagine that.
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Ah…but there’s another shocker that Sean Maguire says no one sees coming….that’s the one I’m a little worried about.
Is it different than the Zelena=Marian one?? If so, that may be interesting. Or incredibly bad. Like it could turn out Marian doesn’t actually exist and Zelena was her the ENTIRE time Robin knew her which means that Roland is actually ZELENA’S son and not Marian’s . So yeah. Imagine that.
Would explain why Roland has a light skin tone instead of a skin tone closer to Marian’s. However, if they did try and pull a “Marian never existed, it was Zelena all along” ploy then I’d be quite annoyed because not only would they be erasing yet another POC from the show, but it would seem like they only pulled this plot device to make OQ work. They’re already trying to fix OQ with the Marian=Zelena thing, to make Marian not have been real all along would be overkill.
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