Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[Slurpeez]

I was going to say that with Zelena sticking around a bit longer (or forever?) that gives us a chance that Emma will actually confront her about Neal’s death and so will Rumpel.

Honestly? That isn’t going to happen ever again. Emma already “confronted” Zelena about killing Neal back in his apartment in the episode called Mother. We got one line. Emma: “Now he’s [Neal’s] gone, thanks to her.” Emma wasn’t able to lift a finger against Zelena because suddenly, she’s an expectant mother. There is not going to be another so-called confrontation, just like Emma never confronted Regina about murdering Graham. As RG suggested, Zelena is the new shiny toy of the show, like Regina was in the minds of the writers. There is no such thing as karma or cosmic justice on this show. Even Rumple, as the dark one, was rendered completely unable to avenge Neal’s death. He thought he had when he “murdered” Zelena in S3 only to discover, to his chagrin, that she was alive again, and that only she had the potion to extend his life. Now Rumple is a mere mortal again, stuck in some sort of comatose state for the foreseeable future.

[TheWatcher]

She will be normal, Rumple was only like that to make him the beast and after also helped making him the crocodile, i mean zozo was normal,

Zosi had the same scaly, greenish-gold skin as Rumpel. Although he looked much more..cleaner? The way that Rump dresses and what he does with his magic was his thing but the look of the DO would go to anyone who is the DO. So I think Emma will or at least should get all the DO treatment. But maybe to save time, I could see if they didn’t. Though id be disappointed.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[PriceofMagic]

I wonder if the writers are aiming to redeem Zelena to avoid backlash against Regina just taking her baby and playing mommy to it whilst Zelena is left to rot. Zelena might be killed off but her dying wish is for Regina to be a mom to her child.

It would be extremely annoying but the writers love going the “sympathy for Regina” route. They’ll end up having Zelena giving her permission for Zelena to raise her child because then that storyline would be tied up in a neat little bow for them.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[TheGoldenKey]

Proposition (can you tell I’m going into Camelot mode? 😉 )

Now, I get that Neal is gone and they don’t seem interested in ever bringing him back, especially considering their preference for the other ship.  But here are a few things I’ve mulled over in my mind.

What if they were to bring Neal back?  What if Neal was a critical part of Zelena’s redemption storyline?  What if Neal’s forgiveness allowed her to move on?

Both suffered the deep emotional scars of abandonment by their parents.  Both were swept away by vortexes.  Both only sought to be loved, accepted and by their families.

Now Neal always chose right from wrong, despite the circumstances.  We can’t really fault him for making the one wrong chose  when bringing Rumple back as all he really wanted to do was get back to Emma & Henry.

Zelena on the other, chose wrong from right.

Neal now having been in a position of understanding how easy it is to go down that slippery slope would be able to see & understand how Zelena’s pain led her to make those wrong choices.

So who better to help her and guide her along as she seeks redemption.  Neal of course!

Now before everyone gets on me about being unrealistic, I know it’s “crack” wishful thinking out loud, but I still wanted to share those thoughts with you.

If Neal came back in this capacity, the show wouldn’t have the issueof fans being angry because it upset a particular community of shippers.

If Neal came back in this capacity, NealFire fans would rejoice and many who left after they killed him off, would return.

In my mind, Neal & Zelena aka #WickedFire make great sense and is a fantastic storyline to explore.  Imagine the possibilities?

I will never EVER give up on Neal coming back and because of this, I am going to ship the heck out of #WickedFire over on facebook & twitter.

If the SQ fandom has taught us anything, it’s that you never give up; you get yourself out there; and you make yourself visible.

Giving them options to bring him back where it doesn’t affect their canon ship isn’t a bad thing.  Considering all the negative feedback they are getting over Zelena coming back, what better way to turn this around than bring a beloved character into the mixture.  Considering that a lot of hate is coming from the OQ camp towards Zelena, bring in Neal would eliminate a lot of that.

If they can find loopholes for others, like this “essence of being” nonsense, surely they can for Neal.

Again, this is my crackfull, wishfull thinking.  But I do know this for a fact.  If fans don’t try something, the assurance the Neal will never be back is absolute.  So, what have we left to lose?  Why not try to get out our boy back?

As I said earlier on, I’m going to be shipping the hashtag #WickedFire on every tweet to Adam, Bex, OUAT, ABC and posting the heck out of it on facebook.  Hoping it will catch on with everyone who loves Neal and wants our boy back.

 

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[PriceofMagic]

I think bringing Neal back in a capacity that would avoid another CaptainSwanFire triangle is a good idea, however, pairing him up with Zelena is not the best fit in my opinion (not only because I have my own crack ship involving Zelena) but for the simple fact that she killed him. It just seems wrong to have a character want to pursue a relationship with their murderer.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[TheGoldenKey]

I agree that it may not be the best fit, but with creative writing, they certainly can make it fit.

I just think this is a golden opportunity to do and this opportunity may never come around again.

While I will always be #SwanFire at heart, I am first and always #NealFire.

I for one, am tired of accepting his death and I think it’s time for #NealFire fans to fight back.  We aren’t asking for our ship; we are merely asking that they bring him back as the hero with a moral compass that we all have grown to love and admire.  If that means he’s on a path to save & redeem a villain who was responsible for his demise, than so be it.  Actually, it really is quite fitting considering that he believed in the best of even the darkest person.

I’m fighting for him in S5.  Timing couldn’t be better as his show is now cancelled.  I say let’s flood the FB boards and twitter with the hashtag #WickedFire and see if we can’t get the writers to get off their duffs and do something creative for the #NealFire fans.  I’m not going down without a fight.  I’m mad as heck and I’m not going to take it anymore!

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

Crumb!  IMDB is showing Game of Silence as a TV movie.  I’ve just been told it’s a series.  Anxious to see it but it still won’t stop me from fighting to bring MRJ back to OUAT.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[RumplesGirl]

Crumb! IMDB is showing Game of Silence as a TV movie. I’ve just been told it’s a series. Anxious to see it but it still won’t stop me from fighting to bring MRJ back to OUAT.

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It’s a series. Midseason

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Rainbow]

Crumb! IMDB is showing Game of Silence as a TV movie. I’ve just been told it’s a series. Anxious to see it but it still won’t stop me from fighting to bring MRJ back to OUAT.

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Is a Tv series, TV movie is the name all pilots get during pilot season, is just a case that NBC still didnt updated that, they will start filming soon, most likely will premiere maybe in March 2016.

I think there is a thing, that most people dont think about this Neal issue, very well people want him back, the writers and network showed they dont want him back, but in the case of they changed ideas, who says that MRJ wants to go back after the way he was treated, by writers, network, media, fandom?Is not a case of the fans or writers wnat him back, is the case if the actor would want to return, bc if he says NO, neither the fans or writers can do anything about it, since the actor is not linked by contract, he is not obliged to say yes. In fact there is a interview about TB that says that, when asked if they could bring his character back from dead, would he return and he said no, bc he said that as an actor he wants to try new roles, not go back to the past, he wants to move forward and going back to TB would mean a step back on his career.

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[Ranisha Pitts]

Yeah kind of leaning with Rainbow there is the possibility he just may not want to come back and simply moving forward in his career. All I know it seems MRJ is having the time of his life in his new projects. He appears to be having fun and I like seeing him have fun!

I miss Neal, I love Neal, but I don’t need to see him back. He will live on in my mental fanfiction! Where he is happy and loved with family and friends.

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

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