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Based purely on the script, it seems to me like Hook is still being portrayed as Emma’s Mr. Wrong.
Yes but the writers don’t recognize that they are portraying him that way. There’s a disconnect. The writers are just following typical storytelling with bad boys who are never 100% reformed but who get the girl anyway simply because 1) they are hot and 2) women are objects who don’t know their own mind and golly if they just gave the guy a chance, they’d see how great he is! and 3) because gosh darn it, he really loves her and that’s all that matters! They are portraying him as Mr. Wrong (because most women would go screaming into the night if they had this sort of attention) but the writers don’t realize they are portraying him as Mr. Wrong. The things you point out that they are throwing in are great in showing us why he’s all wrong for Emma, but the writers aren’t reading them as such…they are just there for plot and never advanced beyond that episode
Yeah, this disconnect between audience perception and script that @Slurpeez is pointing out has been puzzling me for a while as well. So there’s the one possibility that the writers are just tone deaf — as in, they can no longer see the bigger picture for all the soap suds. On the other hand, there’s the fandom effect: people get on team Hook, team Regina, team Rumple etc. and become really hard to budge, no matter how problematic the character. (Personally, I would actually enjoy seeing convincing redemptive arcs for all three, but I doubt that’s possible at this stage). I guess my critique is not of the character per se — I have too much OUAT fatigue to even muster any serious character dislike at this point — but of the really bizarre, inconsistent, and sometimes downright offensive writing choices that are being made. For example, to go back to that scene where Hook is saying “this isn’t who I am” — a small change would have made that dialogue entirely different, and a lot less ambiguous. Instead of the “this isn’t me” line, something that acknowledges Hook’s past in a moment of character self-reflexivity would have been so much more satisfying. I don’t know, “I can’t be that person anymore, Swan. I have to go.” Or whatever, but something more ambivalent, or self-aware or something. But the dialogue was written this way, and, of all the takes of that scene, which I assume there were multiple versions of, the directing choice fell on the one where Hook’s affect is self-righteous outrage.
So my new pet theory is that the show creators are actually writing to maximize audience polarization. It’s a Gestalt problem, where your brain falls into a perceptual decision, and then you can’t see both sides of the same coin. Like the vase/face paradox.
I’m probably giving them too much credit. Meh. They’re probably just tone deaf.
[adrotate group="5"]On the other hand, there’s the fandom effect: people get on team Hook, team Regina, team Rumple etc. and become really hard to budge, no matter how problematic the characte
Emotional Truths. We just dig in deeper.
“I can’t be that person anymore, Swan. I have to go.” Or whatever, but something more ambivalent, or self-aware or something.
Yup.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"But the dialogue was written this way, and, of all the takes of that scene, which I assume there were multiple versions of, the directing choice fell on the one where Hook’s affect is self-righteous outrage.
Yeah it could’ve been written in a better, less offensive way.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
These are some of may favorite things. (no but really, why is there a cave under Emma’s new house?! How does that happen?? It makes as much sense as the mines leading to the beach back in 4A)
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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
He’s a codfish!
But, yeah. One thing to note about the Camelot kiss is that, at the time, Emma wanted to be free of the Dark One’s curse. She used light magic. Despite what Head!Rumpel said, she did not really get a taste of the darkness and liked it. The gold on her skin appeared after the kiss. When Belle kissed Rumpel, he had to shake it off. Literally. That was the only time TLK has been used on the Dark One, that we’ve seen. Basically, it appears that Hook is a rebound after Nealfire’s death. Nothing more. Still a codfish.
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Posted this in the sneak peek thread.
My thoughts on that second sneak peek: I don’t like how Hook is treating Dark One Emma. Perhaps it is being written like that to play in with Belle’s line “It’s far easier to hate a dark one than it is to love one” but it just seems odd and a little OOC that he would spend 3 seasons chasing after Emma and that, now that she’s the dark one, he wants nothing to do with her. I feel quite confident predicting that until Hook gets over his issues with Emma being the dark one, then a CS TLK won’t work. Remember Belle’s line about Rumple in 315 “I love him, all of him, even the parts that belong to the darkness”. Until Hook can learn to love ALL the parts of Emma including the darkness, then no amount of kissing is going to break the Dark one curse.
The thing I find almost unsettling about the clip is that Hook refuses Emma’s offer of talking and having lunch “like old times” when she’s dressed in her Dark one outfit, yet he’s more accepting of the offer when she’s wearing her Sandra dee dress. Not only that but Emma’s body language when she’s apologising before making the offer, it just doesn’t sit right. It’s like she’s being made to apologise because she’s not the woman Hook wants her to be and she doesn’t want to be rejected by him so she’s being quite submissive.
Adding this part in this thread because I’m less likely to be yelled at here: I find that scene of Emma and Hook to have an undertone of a domestic abuse vibe about it. Because Emma isn’t the woman Hook wants her to be, Emma feels like she has to apologise to him. She wants to talk and have lunch with him “like old times” but he’s not interested. It’s only when she puts on her Sandra dee form (which a lot of us ages ago said didn’t suit the Emma Swan we met in season 1,2 or 3A) that Hook allows her to have lunch with him. It’s like he’s trying to diminish her sense of self-esteem.
His concern doesn’t seem to be about helping Emma, he dislikes that Emma isn’t the woman he wants her to be. I’ve never been the biggest fan of CS but accepted that it was happening and that we’d be subjected to it until the end of the series. But this scene right here, it’s not right. It is so wrong on so many levels. This isn’t just about Hook wanting to free Emma from the dark one curse, this is Hook rejecting Emma just because there’s something “wrong” with her. That is not true love at all. That is not even love.
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