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October 15, 2015 at 3:28 pm #310037
Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantEmma will save Hook with the help of Baelfire because he toates ships it
[adrotate group="5"]"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
October 15, 2015 at 5:01 pm #310042PriceofMagic
ParticipantHave I missed something? What spoilers for 510? Are we talking about a certain sword having certain names on it?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOctober 15, 2015 at 5:13 pm #310043RumplesGirl
KeymasterOkay, I know we’ve discussed this many, many times, but do you think this absolute ban on any mention of Nealfire comes from the Trolls, ABC, and/or Disney???
I don’t think ABC dictated that they ignore Nealfire. I think ABC dictated CS and I think A and E took it to an absurd extent with 1) killing Neal (you can easily have CS be endgame and not erase Rumple’s son/ Henry’s father/ Emma’s friend/ reason for the curse) and 2) then choosing to largely ignore Nealfire’s role in the narrative except when it’s absolutely necessary to mention him in passing.
It’s like A and E couldn’t figure out a way to juggle all those balls so they took the cheap and easy way out by simply dropping one ball. They will occasionally pick it up–usually during awkward and strange in universe moments that make no sense later on–only to placate the fans who realize that they have dropped a ball.
For example, I love the 405 moment when Hook pulls out the picture of Emma and Neal from Emma’s special box. It’s the Swan Nuzzle and it’s sad and it’s well acted on JMo and Colin’s part and it gave me a lot of feels. But, after some distance, the scene makes zero sense because there was no one to snap that picture! I mean…they literally lifted a screenshot and used that. It was placation because they had gone roughly 4 episodes without a Neal reference and knew they needed one.
Example #2, Henry asking the Apprentice if he could write his father back into the story when he had spent all season ignoring his father’s death and even his father’s prior existence! Suddenly, after Hook had been brought back because of *mumbo jumbo magical handwave* THEN Henry was all torn up about losing his dad? Yeah, right, no. That was A and E sitting down with fans and going “look he’s never coming back and here’s a really silly explanation for why everyone else gets to come back but not him so can we drop this now plz? Have a pirate!”
If ABC had actually dictated this Anti-Nealfire Clause then they’d never mention him but they do in the most minimally invasive way possible, when they know they need to insert him to placate fans. The other 99.9% of the time he’s egregiously ignored even when it results in plot holes, inconsistent writing and OOC moments from characters–see for example the latest controversy involving a cutlass.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 16, 2015 at 8:38 am #310065Rainbow
ParticipantMorning!!!
I sent this to @Josephine, bc she is my Minion !!
But also thought in @RG, for her baby sheldon

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
October 16, 2015 at 8:58 am #310067RumplesGirl
KeymasterFriday!
*waves at @Phee heading off to the airport*
*waves at Heather heading off to be a social butterfly*
*waves at everyone else*
See you guys tonight. #BrideNight
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm #310072WickedRegal
ParticipantI’m quite positive Sean Maguire is the only OUAT Cast Member who hasn’t forgotten MRJ!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=290&v=MdCjUyIAfD8
It maybe brief but at least he’s mentioned.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
October 16, 2015 at 7:23 pm #310085Rainbow
ParticipantI’m quite positive Sean Maguire is the only OUAT Cast Member who hasn’t forgotten MRJ!
<iframe src=”//www.youtube.com/embed/MdCjUyIAfD8?wmode=transparent&modestbranding=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&rel=0″ width=”100%” height=”100%” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>It maybe brief but at least he’s mentioned.
Saw that at least until the MRJ part, but must say that MRJ tweeted Sean and so far he didn’t said anything back, I say he may not be allowed, even tho Sean already faved tweets after that and even fav a tweet from a fan that was an answer to the tweet MRJ tweeted Sean.
Is my opinion, but I do believe there is not only a anti nealfire, but also a anti MRJ rule imposed by ABC , where they can’t talk with MRJ in public unless they allowed( they don’t want to remember the fans that MRJ was in the show and that he was Neal and maybe they think Neal is hated so is better not to mention MRJ, bc in their mind with Neal being hated is better not associate the show with him and Neal )is not normal that they all praise ex cast members projects in public, some even live tweeting the ex cast members shows,yet with MRJ they pretend he was never on the show and not even congrat him on his projects and when they talk about him, is bc of PR that involves ouat, is not with feeling, ok with the other cast menbers may also be PR, but they talk about cast menbers that are actually loved or at least not so much in ship wars like MRJ is, even tho Jamie dornan could be involved on it, but then again he is hot according to the fans, so he doesnt get hate.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
October 16, 2015 at 7:38 pm #310086Slurpeez
Participant"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 16, 2015 at 9:47 pm #310089RumplesGirl
KeymasterOctober 16, 2015 at 11:25 pm #310102WickedRegal
ParticipantIn which A and E keep saying CS but showing SQ. (Bait! Bait galore!) (goes to drink)
I think we all need one at this point…
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
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