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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • October 18, 2015 at 10:08 pm #310232
    RumplesGirl
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    Your optimism keeps me going, honey.

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 18, 2015 at 10:18 pm #310235
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    Marty McFly wrote:

    did hook end up a villain?

    He is to me. He’s my second-least favorite character. Zelena is the only character I hate more. Although even she was pretty cool for three episodes.

    pfft HA! Hook is the male lead now according to some people.
    Hook was best when he was the villain. I used to be such a huge hooker. But then S3 happened. Hook is being portrayed as the good guy. Not acting much like one. But they are portraying him as one.

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    I actually kind of liked him when he was a clear-cut villain! Then, in 4A, I was rooting for Rumpel to crush his heart!

    October 18, 2015 at 10:18 pm #310236
    Keb
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    Nice thing about studying English…you can choose to read what’s in the text instead of what the author says about what’s in the text. Neal is there. He matters.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    October 18, 2015 at 10:26 pm #310243
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    I’m with you, Slurpeez.

    Oh, and Wonderland can be retconned to take place while the SB crew are in Camelot. Will was crying about Ana becoming the Red Queen. He tried putting his heart back in for some time. ANA’s NOT DEAD!

    October 18, 2015 at 10:29 pm #310244
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Nice thing about studying English…you can choose to read what’s in the text instead of what the author says about what’s in the text. Neal is there. He matters.

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    Of course he matters. But we’re not writing the show and therefore our own readings end up mattering very little because the authors text are what we given on a weekly basis. I can read Neal into every single scene in this show…and the writers will STILL refuse to acknowledge him.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 18, 2015 at 10:38 pm #310246
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Of course he matters. But we’re not writing the show and therefore our own readings end up mattering very little because the authors text are what we given on a weekly basis. I can read Neal into every single scene in this show…and the writers will STILL refuse to acknowledge him.

    Show don’t tell. Of course, the writers tell CS fans what they want to hear, but what actually is being revealed is just why CS does not equal TL. There is a pattern to CS =/= TL and SF = TL. It’s not reading into it. Clearly, Emma is not over Neal.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 18, 2015 at 10:42 pm #310248
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    There is a pattern to CS =/= TL and SF = TL. It’s not reading into it. Clearly, Emma is not over Neal.

    you act like you have to convince me. I know it’s there. I know all this. The larger point is that the writers aren’t going to do an about face and have Emma break it off for good with the pirate because SF was true love and she’s not over Neal.

    Consider this: while Emma was making dreamcatcher, the thing that stopped the terrible Rumple voice for awhile, was Hook and a field of flowers. A flower that Emma kept in present day and was cradling, much like cradling the dreamcatcher in the promo for next week

    That’s text too. Yes it’s bait and they are doing it to both sides but only one of those is going to have any sort of happy resolution. And it’s not us.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 18, 2015 at 10:46 pm #310251
    Slurpeez
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    That’s text too. Yes it’s bait and they are doing it to both sides but only one of those is going to have any sort of happy resolution. And it’s not us.

    I know it’s SF bait. But, my argument is that Neal is implicitly there in the text; it’s not reading into it.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 18, 2015 at 10:58 pm #310255
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    My question, Slurpeez, is really this : what are you hoping for? What do you expect? Just that CS is never declared TL?

    Because the way I see it, it’ll go one of two ways

    1) Never confirmed as TL but CS end up together anyway because “learning to love again” “non magical true love isn’t the only sort of love there is…” ect

    2) Confirmed as TL in spite of all the things you’ve pointed out (and that I agree with) because of mumbo jumbo magical handwave.

    I mean, either way it’s not going to stop that ship and (imo) it’s not going to stop them from being declared TL in spite of all the problems and all the times they’ve showed that CS isn’t TL because this show….very very good at ignoring things they’ve shown and said in the past.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 18, 2015 at 11:04 pm #310258
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    My question, Slurpeez, is really this : what are you hoping for? What do you expect? Just that CS is never declared TL?

    It all comes down to the following: there are some people who’re right for you (aka Neal), some people who’re wrong for you (aka Hook) and some people you just choose (aka Henry). In the end, I predict a choice will have to be made between Hook and Henry, and Henry will win hands down. I may be wrong (wouldn’t be the first time). But until I see the very last episode ever, I’m not ready to declare Hook the last person standing.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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