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I’m going to focus on the pretty photo and not the new promo for next week’s episode. Her ONE TRUE LOVE?! REALLY?! SORRY HENRY. YOU JUST GOT DOWNGRADED, KID. *twitch*
Exactly…and umm….let’s add all this up together shall we. Henry has verbally expressed his hatred of Hook and even more so his disapproval of him dating Emma, and Hook doesn’t even care, and is interested in only Emma, Emma, Emma while failing to realize that Emma is a package deal, aka Henry, you’re not getting one without the other, so this will eventually escalate and Emma remains blind to all of this. Henry approves of Robin Hood, heck he’s damn proud his mother snagged Robin Hood, evidence of that is 3×20 when Henry was in fanboy mode over his mom and Robin being together. Robin understands that Regina is a package deal, you’re not getting her and not Henry, and he honestly loves that he’s got another son, and I think if Hook honestly cared and genuinely loved Henry like Robin Hood did….Henry would be a bit more supportive, but Hook is all “Emma, Emma, Emma, Emma” and if Emma doesn’t intercede, Henry will turn into a step-monster soon and all of this will end badly because then Regina and Charmings will get involved and this will end up being a mess.
Let’s not forget that Hook is a man who knowingly allowed Milah to abandon her own son just to have her to himself…I wouldn’t be more surprised if Emma could one day tell Hook to leave everything behind and run away with her, would Henry cross Hook’s mind even in the tiniest bit? Did Baelfire cross his mind when he stole Milah away from him? Hook’s selfish like nature isn’t a good thing to have, especially when it comes to a woman with a child and a crazy family. This is the same man that surrendered over a lost thirteen year old boy to a pack of wild teenagers! Screw this…this thing has gone past just Neal dying for CaptainSwan, Hook’s only concern being Emma and screw everyone else, or even his emotional blackmail…..My main concern right now is Henry and how all of this will affect him. For Emma, everything has become “Hook, Hook, Hook,” what about your child lady? What about the son who you shared a body with for nine months? Who you broke a curse for? Who you fought dragons, trolls, and evil teenagers for….the kid you said you’d walk through Hell to get back, what about him???!!! Give Henry about nine more years….this will be Emma, Hook, and Henry. 
But then you’ve got to wonder…whose really number one in Emma’s life now? Hook or Henry? Emma’s been neglecting her baby boy….hell she’s spent more time with Captain Guyliner than her own child. If you’ve done your child wrong, and honestly regret it, Emma should have spent all that time with Henry instead of trying to “Netflix, Coffee, & Chill” with Hook. I understand that she THINKS she’s found Mr. Perfect, but someone needs to tell Emma the truth…you’re putting a man above your child, a man that you don’t even know carelessly put your son’s life at risk trying to free the woman somewhat responsible for your baby daddy’s death, and this is NOT the Emma Swan we knew. The Dark One might have changed Emma, but Rumplestilskin even would have chosen his son over Belle if it ever had came down to it. Forgive me if I’m going a little overboard or being a little extra guys, but both the mother and SwanBeliever in me is just pissed at some of Emma’s priorities. Remove the Dark Curse for your son, not for this man you’ve been dating for three or so months. I swear the second Emma refers to Henry as her son, this will be my reaction from now on: 
That is the problem, they are making Henry bonding with hook offscreen, if he was chosing houses with hook for them, that means that Henry supports the relation. Also Jared said at some interview that henry would forgive Emma bc she did all this for her love for hook so that theme Henry doesn’t like hook was last year, now he probably loves him more than Neal , heck even the fact that he will go to save hook together with rumple, when they didn’t even tried to save Neal or questioned one way to save him. At this point they may even say hook is Henry father, bc blood means doesn’t mean that much if in your heart that person is your father
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A really great podcast from OSOTM on Birth and The Bear King that has some great stuff to say about Emma, CS, and the show in general
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"That is the problem, they are making Henry bonding with hook offscreen, if he was chiding houses with hook for them, that means that Henry supports the relation. Also Jared said at some interview that henry would forgive Emma bc she did all this for her love for hook so that theme Henry doesn’t like hook was last year, now he probably loves him more than Neal , heck even the fact that he will go to save hook together with rumple, when they didn’t even tried to save Neal or questioned one way to save him. At this point they may even say hook is Henry father, bc blood means doesn’t mean that much if in your heart that person is your father
And the saddest thing is…Adam and Eddy didn’t show any bonding between Hook and Henry but him putting Henry’s life at risk….like we’re supposed to leap for joy at that moment. Any other moment of bonding, we’re just supposed to assume happened….if any real bonding happened, why can’t they just show us. If we’re supposed to buy that Hook is now father of the year, then hell, they’ve gotta sell it instead of leaving it to our imagination.
But maybe it’s too late…maybe Adam and Eddy really have gone too far? Can anything save Once Upon A Time at this point, not the ratings, but the storyline.
How did this happen guys? How did a show we used to love in it’s early seasons….become a mere shadow of it’s former glory self. It’s amazing to go back to the Seasons 1-3 Threads and see all the excitement we used to have, and then venture into Seasons 4-5 to see it’s downfall.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Hook kills Merlin to cast the curse Yet another POC bites the dust.Though how that actually worked is another question since “heart of the thing you loved most” used to be a requirement.
How did this happen guys? How did a show we used to love in it’s early seasons….become a mere shadow of it’s former glory self. It’s amazing to go back to the Seasons 1-3 Threads and see all the excitement we used to have, and then venture into Seasons 4-5 to see it’s downfall.
Well Nealfire was still alive in season 1-3…..
I think the main problem is that, in seasons 1-3 the writers were actually using character driven plots, from season 4 onwards, they’ve been using plot driven characters. The early seasons showed us the “real” stories behind the characters we know and love including the Disney ones eg Snow, Belle, Grumpy, Pinocchio, Jiminy Cricket, etc. Season 4 (FROZEN ALL THE THINGS!) took the Disney characters and just plonked them in the show with the assumption that the audience had seen the movie so they could skimp on backstory.
Basically the show has now become about style over substance. RumBelle is the only thing that has remained strong since season 1 but even that has been put through the wringer and barely gets screentime.
Snowing- Complete shadows of their former selves. Snow has suffered worse than Charming in terms of character assassination.
Family relationships- completely brushed aside and ignored in favour of romantic ships.
The small town feel- Ignored completely. Cameos of characters such as Whale, Archie, Granny are a rarity.
Everything has been screwed over in favour of CS.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felixnot only does Hook kill Merlin to start the curse but Emma erases everyone’s memories to cover it up and help out Hook. Emma Swan. What are you?!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"CS has never been shown to be true love. They’ve demonstrably been shown to be the opposite (cue failed TLK). Emma takes away everyone’s memories to cover up for a huge sin that Hook made after she selfishly denied his dying wish. Talk about twisted love. *twitch*
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
One of the things that makes Hook so horribly wrong for Emma is that he’s suffering from the typical immortal character syndrome. He’s like straight out of bad vampire paranormal romance: i.e. it’s a character who isn’t at all affected by his pathologically long life. Hence he’s acting like an impulsive teenager with no regard for anyone but himself (so, everything both @WickedRegal and @PriceofMagic said) — because that’s exactly what he is. In the 200+ years he’s been running around being a pirate, his motivations, worldview, and attitude to life apparently haven’t changed until Suddenly! Emma. The fact that he doesn’t have an inkling as to how to deal with someone who already had/has a family speaks to this (and arguably, he doesn’t want a family — he wants a girlfriend.) Hence “Emma Emma Emma.” Essentially, Hook is just another Lost Boy.
So that’s where CS goes off the deep end. It might be appealing character development if we’re talking about two 16 year olds falling in love (Romeo+Juliette / Tristan&Isolde etc) — as part of a first crush kind of story. That type of story is about two people with a very limited experience of life, and hence the feelings feel revolutionary.
But OUAT explicitly brought everyone’s baggage to the table. Arguably, S1, and the very premise of the show, was about everyone’s baggage — sometimes hidden, sometimes in plain view. So grafting this YA vampire bad boy cliche onto a show about complicated family ties, past mistakes, and second chances/new beginnings feels completely artificial. It’s simply the wrong love story. Essentially, Emma is a woman in her early 30s, with an actual past — including a teenage son, a good dose of loss and grief, and great deal of hard earned competence and skills — who is being paired with someone who, as a character, has the emotional and intellectual development of a 19 year old.
So at this point, the writers have two choices: either explicitly address this (i.e. Emma becomes a mother figure to Hook); or de-age Emma and make her as impulsive, selfish, and emotionally incompetent as Hook is, thus reversing all her gains as a character since S1.
Which is what they did.
or de-age Emma and make her as impulsive, selfish, and emotionally incompetent as Hook is, thus reversing all her gains as a character since S1.
Well said overall. The podcast I linked to a page back covered this as well. They talked about how every season (at least past S3A) Emma is emotionally re-set to zero (complete with all her walls) as if the past seasons didn’t happen and we’re expected to believe that she’s scared, and unsure of herself every time we turn over a new arc.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The thing is Emma is the new Milah, if Hook was to ask Emma to go away with him sailing, she would go with no problem, not caring about her parents and brother and especially about her son, but what is even worst is that unlike Milah case, all the other characters that are now idiots, would actually support Emma on this, saying she needs her happy ending with Hook. Because in the end that is the thing, Cs only exists bc they made all other characters idiots, that dont call Emma on the crap things, when according to spoilers u have Rumple and Henry going to underworld to save Hook, while with Neal they were nothing to do, drink potion to forget, etc, not even mention Emma with he died a hero crap, all the other characters turned into a idiots, i almost bet that Belle will aks rumple to save hook to prove to her he changed and he is now a good person, and ehnry will go, bc hook is amazing and he likes him and how he already lost one father doesnt want to lose another,etc, etc, the more seasons this show gets the more crap they do.
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The thing is Emma is the new Milah, if Hook was to ask Emma to go away with him sailing, she would go with no problem, not caring about her parents and brother and especially about her son, but what is even worst is that unlike Milah case, all the other characters that are now idiots, would actually support Emma on this, saying she needs her happy ending with Hook. Because in the end that is the thing, Cs only exists bc they made all other characters idiots, that dont call Emma on the crap things.
And Sweet Oz, this is my worst fear of a series finale, Adam and Eddy giving CaptainSwan some sort of Grease like ending with Emma sailing away with Hook on his ship off into the sunset to travel realms or some other BS excuse, while all the other characters wave goodbye like happy go lucky idiots from the shore. I cannot even begin to calculate the amount of tables flipped and the amount of things broken by me if this were to happen.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Let’s not forget that Hook is a man who knowingly allowed Milah to abandon her own son just to have her to himself…I wouldn’t be more surprised if Emma could one day tell Hook to leave everything behind and run away with her, would Henry cross Hook’s mind even in the tiniest bit? Did Baelfire cross his mind when he stole Milah away from him? Hook’s selfish like nature isn’t a good thing to have, especially when it comes to a woman with a child and a crazy family. This is the same man that surrendered over a lost thirteen year old boy to a pack of wild teenagers! Screw this…this thing has gone past just Neal dying for CaptainSwan, Hook’s only concern being Emma and screw everyone else, or even his emotional blackmail…..My main concern right now is Henry and how all of this will affect him. For Emma, everything has become “Hook, Hook, Hook,” what about your child lady? What about the son who you shared a body with for nine months? Who you broke a curse for? Who you fought dragons, trolls, and evil teenagers for….the kid you said you’d walk through Hell to get back, what about him???!!! Give Henry about nine more years….this will be Emma, Hook, and Henry. 
But then you’ve got to wonder…whose really number one in Emma’s life now? Hook or Henry? Emma’s been neglecting her baby boy….hell she’s spent more time with Captain Guyliner than her own child. If you’ve done your child wrong, and honestly regret it, Emma should have spent all that time with Henry instead of trying to “Netflix, Coffee, & Chill” with Hook. I understand that she THINKS she’s found Mr. Perfect, but someone needs to tell Emma the truth…you’re putting a man above your child, a man that you don’t even know carelessly put your son’s life at risk trying to free the woman somewhat responsible for your baby daddy’s death, and this is NOT the Emma Swan we knew. The Dark One might have changed Emma, but Rumplestilskin even would have chosen his son over Belle if it ever had came down to it. Forgive me if I’m going a little overboard or being a little extra guys, but both the mother and SwanBeliever in me is just pissed at some of Emma’s priorities. Remove the Dark Curse for your son, not for this man you’ve been dating for three or so months. I swear the second Emma refers to Henry as her son, this will be my reaction from now on: 
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