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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 3, 2016 at 12:12 pm #314628
    Rainbow
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    https://twitter.com/4evereyecandy/status/683541359458844672

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    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    January 3, 2016 at 4:01 pm #314630
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    <blockquote
    Seriously. It’s like the former-loved-one-turned-zombie that against all common reason you keep around. So you lock it in the shed, where it shambles aimlessly, occasionally makes weird groaning noises, and keeps trying to eat your brains whenever you come by to feed it.
    Here’s what the SF thread is in this analogy–
    You share the duties of caring for the ZombOUAT (ZOUAT?) with a bunch of others who still feel an emotional attachment to the original entity. There’s a bunch of people who’ve since moved on – moved out of the house, if you will — but still come by to bring cookies, booze, and offer moral support. You take turns feeding ZOUAT chicken brains, but mostly hang out, talk about the nature of zombiehood, whether you think there’s a cure, and whether the original personality is till “in there.” And about the various vagaries of its decomposition process.
    Hoping against all hope that maybe you’ll wake up one day and the thing in the shed will have snapped out of it. But really, we all know that we’re just binding time until it finally expires.
    All along you also know that no cure is coming, and it’d be a mercy to you and to it to just put the damned thing down.
    Happy Sunday. ?

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    Beautiful analogy. This ZOUT is actually eating my brains lol

    January 3, 2016 at 4:08 pm #314631
    Marty McFly
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    So i just finished watching episode 11 fruit of a poisonous tree

    How sydney was infatuated with regina almost like a love potion and he killed a good, kind man, who freed him, because he was blinded by infatuation.

    Is emma blindly infatuated by hook? Is hook infatuated by emma? Because this is not love. Not what i saw in seasen 3. Its not love. Its like Sidney with Regina.

    Emotional entangelments can lead us down dangerous paths, said Mr. Gold.

    January 3, 2016 at 6:59 pm #314632
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    So i just finished watching episode 11 fruit of a poisonous tree
    How sydney was infatuated with regina almost like a love potion and he killed a good, kind man, who freed him, because he was blinded by infatuation.
    Is emma blindly infatuated by hook? Is hook infatuated by emma? Because this is not love. Not what i saw in seasen 3. Its not love. Its like Sidney with Regina.
    Emotional entangelments can lead us down dangerous paths, said Mr. Gold.

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    Ding, ding! I think we have a winner.

    January 4, 2016 at 8:37 am #314641
    RumplesGirl
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    ZOUAT is one of the best analogies ever.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 4, 2016 at 9:40 am #314642
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    watching season 1 made me think…

    I refuse to believe that A&E, who reportedly sat for ten years planning this show, would let a pretty-boy decimate such a beautiful work of art!
    There is no way an artist would allow anyone to defecate all over his/her artwork. Therefore, I believe that this whole hook situation was a ruse. The authors are stringing us along. No one has ever seen the effects of a strong love potion on this show, YET. There has been talk about it. Regina wanted to use it on Henry during season 2. But the audience were never fooled by one yet. (unless Cora used one on Regina, but I don’t think she needed to)
    And if the residents of StoryBrooke are going to the dead-land, well, bad dead people are just as dead as good dead people. The underworld can’t possibly be their last stop.

    Neal is coming back!

    it’s not as though hook is made into some really good guy with a sad back story. he killed his own father. and, no, I am sorry, but his daddy issues are not anything compared to Cora’s kids’ mommy issues, or Rumple’s daddy issues or Bae’s abandonment story or even Pan’s daddy selling him to a blacksmith.

    RG said that Hook’s father sold him and his brother to a captain on a ship?? and then they ended up being a respectable captain and lieutenant? doesn’t sound like he sold them to very bad people. maybe he just gave them up, to give them their best chance?

    the writing is purposely not giving hook a very sympathetic backstory, because they are throwing breadcrumbs of clues for us to see when we go back to watch earlier episodes after his villainy is revealed.

    ouat likes to repeat story lines. so Tamara and Walsh will simply be repeated but in big this time. they will bring all the good people back, and…

    neal is coming baaack!!!!!

    (hope. hope can be very painful. but still, hope.)

    January 4, 2016 at 10:01 am #314643
    Rainbow
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    Neal is coming back!

    Yeah, sorry but No.

    Because:

    1st Cs
    2nd MRJ moved on, i dont think he will ever work with these people again and i bet is not his desire ever cross the paths of this fandom
    3rd They sort of erased Neal importance from Henry and Rumple lifes
    4th they would not know what to do with Neal( unless is to give blessings to CS)
    5th They dont care about Neal
    6th so many other reasons that the list would be to big.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    January 4, 2016 at 10:06 am #314644
    Bar Farer
    Participant

    watching season 1 made me think… I refuse to believe that A&E, who reportedly sat for ten years planning this show, would let a pretty-boy decimate such a beautiful work of art! There is no way an artist would allow anyone to defecate all over his/her artwork. Therefore, I believe that this whole hook situation was a ruse. The authors are stringing us along. No one has ever seen the effects of a strong love potion on this show, YET. There has been talk about it. Regina wanted to use it on Henry during season 2. But the audience were never fooled by one yet. (unless Cora used one on Regina, but I don’t think she needed to) And if the residents of StoryBrooke are going to the dead-land, well, bad dead people are just as dead as good dead people. The underworld can’t possibly be their last stop. Neal is coming back! it’s not as though hook is made into some really good guy with a sad back story. he killed his own father. and, no, I am sorry, but his daddy issues are not anything compared to Cora’s kids’ mommy issues, or Rumple’s daddy issues or Bae’s abandonment story or even Pan’s daddy selling him to a blacksmith. RG said that Hook’s father sold him and his brother to a captain on a ship?? and then they ended up being a respectable captain and lieutenant? doesn’t sound like he sold them to very bad people. maybe he just gave them up, to give them their best chance? the writing is purposely not giving hook a very sympathetic backstory, because they are throwing breadcrumbs of clues for us to see when we go back to watch earlier episodes after his villainy is revealed. ouat likes to repeat story lines. so Tamara and Walsh will simply be repeated but in big this time. they will bring all the good people back, and… neal is coming baaack!!!!! (hope. hope can be very painful. but still, hope.)

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    A&E and planning don’t go in the same sentence. I think their plan for the show can be summed as “a show about fairytales” and nothing more.

    Anything they did since 3B was not for “the art” but for ratings: fanservice, ships driven, Disney cash grab.

    "All your questions are pointless"

    January 4, 2016 at 3:42 pm #314650
    TheWatcher
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    And its such a shame too.

    This could have really been a good storyline, having Neal die and then having Emma go to the underworld to retrieve him. But then I remembered that’s basically whats happening with CS.

    Even just having him appear and play a major part of the storyline would have been fantastic. Getting him and henry together for an adventure and bonding, getting him and his papa together again for a proper farewell and to really squash all the old beef. I mean, okay, I have *finally* accepted he isn’t coming back both because MRJ is busy being amazing and because A&E don’t give a flying dragon about him anymore but just think of what could have been.

    This could have been a really tear jerking emotional arc for emma, for rump, for henry, and of course  for everyone else having them confront their deceased past too (David confronts his brother whose name I forgot, Regina and her parents, maybe even Robin and the real Marian all in the underworld)

    But I guess we shall have to settle for more man-pain and retcons.

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
    Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

    January 4, 2016 at 8:46 pm #314663
    Marty McFly
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    Marty McFly wrote:

    Neal is coming back!

    Yeah, sorry but No.
    Because:
    1st Cs 2nd MRJ moved on, i dont think he will ever work with these people again and i bet is not his desire ever cross the paths of this fandom 3rd They sort of erased Neal importance from Henry and Rumple lifes 4th they would not know what to do with Neal( unless is to give blessings to CS) 5th They dont care about Neal 6th so many other reasons that the list would be to big.

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    This is very depressing… is Neal really not important to Henry anymore? And Rumple?? Its hard to believe

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