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Agreed. If Josh and Ginny decided not to renew their contracts, I think A&E would be hard-pressed to end the show. I hear that Ginny is expecting her second child, which does leave a question in my mind as to whether she’d continue to work full time with two small children at home. I could see her stepping down as a series regular while Josh continues to work full time. She might just become a reappearing guest star or something (or else have fewer scenes like she did in S3b).
Agreed. I would assume Ginny would have told A&E that she wanted no part of a sixth season by now, and if that was the case, A&E would have wanted to wrap it up this season I feel. And if that’s true, we as fans would know if this was the last season or not by now. Since ABC hasn’t said anything, I’m assuming at the very least, there will be a season 6 and Ginny will be part of it, even if it is in a guest role until they need her for the very end.
I will say however, I expect Snow and Charming to be pivotal at the end of this. With this whole sharing a heart thing, my prediction has always been that the two of them would bite the dust together in a last moment of glory to save Emma and or save baby Neal, which would mirror the pilot. And right now, the characters are just in limbo until the writers need them for the end. And if A&E let Ginny and Josh know there future plans for them, maybe that’s incentive enough for the two to stick around.
And as Rumples Girl corrected, ABC let fans know way before season 6 of LOST started that it would be the final season. And I think the show benefited a ton from announcing an end date in advance. Gosh I miss Lost…
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Agreed. I would assume Ginny would have told A&E that she wanted no part of a sixth season by now, and if that was the case, A&E would have wanted to wrap it up this season I feel. And if that’s true, we as fans would know if this was the last season or not by now. Since ABC hasn’t said anything, I’m assuming at the very least, there will be a season 6 and Ginny will be part of it, even if it is in a guest role until they need her for the very end. I will say however, I expect Snow and Charming to be pivotal at the end of this. With this whole sharing a heart thing, my prediction has always been that the two of them would bite the dust together in a last moment of glory to save Emma and or save baby Neal, which would mirror the pilot. And right now, the characters are just in limbo until the writers need them for the end. And if A&E let Ginny and Josh know there future plans for them, maybe that’s incentive enough for the two to stick around. And as Rumples Girl corrected, ABC let fans know way before season 6 of LOST started that it would be the final season. And I think the show benefited a ton from announcing an end date in advance. Gosh I miss Lost…
I think you give A&E more credit that they see this show more than just a job, they wouldn’t end the show and let a lot of people lose their job just because of one actress.
The situation with Snow and Charnimg you depicted can very well be at the end of the current season while the rest of the characters just move on, there’s no need to keep them in a limbo just for the final episode, or they could just be living together off screen until they are relevant to the plot, that is another possibility.
In the end, tv is business and bts situations can change what we see on screen. There are a lot of examples of TV shows where characters left the show because the actors wanted to or were fired while their characters were important to the show and the ending (e.g. Charmed, Grey’s Anatomy, etc…), also stating that a show ends before the season starts happens rarely and usually when the creators don’t want to continue, which was the case with Lost. If it’s up to abc, they would want to see what happens with ratings before they decide to cancel a show and that happens after some episodes aired.
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Yeah I just don’t see them continuing the show without Ginny. Despite her and Charming’s maddening behavior, they are crucial to the overall story. Like it’s one thing to have minor characters shipped off to forgotten character island, but you can’t put Snow White there on a show about fairy tales that all started with her and Charming, and I’m sure ABC knows that. I really just don’t see them continuing the show without her. Where would all the cliche hope preaching come from?
Like it’s one thing to have minor characters shipped off to forgotten character island, but you can’t put Snow White there on a show about fairy tales that all started with her and Charming, and I’m sure ABC knows that.
You mean the same network that let Patrick Dempsey out of his contract early and allowed the creator to kill of his character despite the entire show starting with Meredith Grey and Derek Shepard?
It’s like Bar said; you’re taking the creative-narrative approach. Networks don’t much care about that; they care about what will get them money. If Ginny wanted to leave (or anyone else) and A and E assured ABC that they could still write a show to get eyeballs, then ABC would say “bye bye!” Less money they have to pay one actor anyway.
EDIT: also you seem to think that LOST and OUAT have the same cultural cache/status with ABC. They do not. LOST was lightening in a bottle and a phenomenon that skyrocketed. OUAT is not. It began a descent in S2 (ratings wise) and never really fully recovered (apart from the shark jump of Frozen that was temporary). LOST remained (and remains) one of the most talked about, analyzed, well received TV shows in the past 15 years. OUAT does not get the same treatment as LOST. Just like no other show on ABC got the same treatment before cancellation: ie: Revenge, Resurrection–both of which had very strong first seasons and were considered “hits” before the inevitable decline and cancellation.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"EDIT: also you seem to think that LOST and OUAT have the same cultural cache/status with ABC. They do not. LOST was lightening in a bottle and a phenomenon that skyrocketed. OUAT is not. It began a descent in S2 (ratings wise) and never really fully recovered (apart from the shark jump of Frozen that was temporary). LOST remained (and remains) one of the most talked about, analyzed, well received TV shows in the past 15 years. OUAT does not get the same treatment as LOST. Just like no other show on ABC got the same treatment before cancellation: ie: Revenge, Resurrection–both of which had very strong first seasons and were considered “hits” before the inevitable decline and cancellation.
I guess I just don’t see a show without Snow White. I understand what Grey’s Anatomy did, but I mean I just think this is different. And when watching Revenge, I just felt like that show literally had nothing else to talk about, and you could see that show absolutely ending halfway through its last season. I just don’t see OUAT ending it this season.
And obviously LOST is very different than OUAT. But I will say, neither Revenge nor Resurrection made it to Season 5. I just feel after getting to a 100th episode, there is some respect there and I’d like to think they would treat OUAT fans better than that by letting us know it was in fact the end a little more in advance. And while Lost was certainly lightning in a bottle, you cannot deny the ratings went down starting with season 3, however it was very important that the writers felt they had no more story to tell. With OUAT, A&E still have material to work with. We haven’t even dove into Aladdin yet. But as far as McDreamy vs. Snow White goes, yes I get the comparison you are making but this show is about fairy tales, it’s about Disney. There’s a reason Snow is still trekking along on all these trips to realms. It’s because her presence is important, even if she has taken a step back from the spotlight. I guess we’ll have to see.
They will be unceremoniously killed off in the middle of 5B, then have their memory completely besmirched in season 6.
I will say however, I expect Snow and Charming to be pivotal at the end of this. With this whole sharing a heart thing, my prediction has always been that the two of them would bite the dust together in a last moment of glory to save Emma and or save baby Neal, which would mirror the pilot.
I think there are several different points here: there’s the narrative question, and the centrality of their stories to OUAT more generally, there’s the branding and name recognition question (OUAT=fairytales=Snowhite) and there’s the contract pragmatics. If the contracts are up, they’d have to redraw a contract for next season, and depending on how they plan to deploy the characters and how much screen time they’ll have, I presume the network could just offer less money. Then it’d be up to Ginny and Josh to decide what they want, and if they’re ready to move on, then that’s that.
Re: narrative. Snow and Charming act more as the armature for other characters — for Regina and Emma mostly. They don’t really have any independent relationships of any significance outside of those two, except occasional group scenes — most of their closer ties (Red for example) got relegated to forgotten character island. This means that they’re already a pretty atomized node in the network. So they might be more useful to the writers as ‘sacrificial’ characters to kill off, sooner rather than later, as a way of moving along the characters they’re more interested in writing (Emma and Regina). They can tie some lose ends — Snowing giving their blessings to Emma and Hook, asking to raise baby Neal as their own — and voila. The end of their journey.
As to how that happens — via the heart share or ridiculous gimmick thought up while drunk the night before — is probably not very high on the list of considerations.
They will be unceremoniously killed off in the middle of 5B, then have their memory completely besmirched in season 6.
Oh and Baby Snowflake will grow up to be the next Dark One. Right away.
Thank you for reminding me of him, Nevermore.
I will say however, I expect Snow and Charming to be pivotal at the end of this. With this whole sharing a heart thing, my prediction has always been that the two of them would bite the dust together in a last moment of glory to save Emma and or save baby Neal, which would mirror the pilot.
Then it’d be up to Ginny and Josh to decide what they want, and if they’re ready to move on, then that’s that.
Ginny Goodwin deleted her twitter account…personally I feel she’s just all around done with this show, and I doubt anyone would just want to see David alone, especially since Adam and Eddy just make his character so uninteresting to the point he’s downright boring. Character assassination for Snowing has already been done…next stop being a permanent death, I wouldn’t put it past them.
However, to be totally honest, I’ve grown somewhat annoyed with ships as a whole, even OutlawQueen. And had it not been for RegalBeliever, I’d swear I wouldn’t mind Lana Parrilla leaving this show by having this tear jerking, motherly-daughter feeling type of scene where Regina sacrifices her life to save Snow White out of the Underworld, and we just end it with Regina transitioning to whatever Heavenly Afterlife with Cora, Henry Sr., and Daniel (guest starring Barbra Hershey, Tony Perez, & Noah Bean) and just let that be her happy ending. It’d be coming full circle, it started with Regina saving Snow White, it’d end with Regina saving Snow White.
You guys and Lana Parrilla are really the only reason I’m still watching this sinking titanic show.
They will be unceremoniously killed off in the middle of 5B, then have their memory completely besmirched in season 6.
Oh and Baby Snowflake will grow up to be the next Dark One. Right away.
You didn’t hear the news did you? That’s gonna be Season 6…yeah, Adult Dark One Snowflake comes from the future to wage a war to stop his sister Emma, whose gonna do something very bad in the future. 🙂
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