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Emma lost her savior status the moment she kissed hook. Untill then she was a savior. She saved everyone from cora, she saved the town from the diamond she saved Regina from the wraith, hooks ship from the mermaids etc. But the moment she kissed hook, all she became was a whiner. Im the savior! I never get a day off! Meanwhile, Regina saved everyone. Emma was useless. Rumple saved everyone. Emma was useless. Regina saved everyone again and again, and Emma was nothing but a whining toddler.
That is why Rumple was so disappointed when she did not choose to send her powers to the hat. She was very powerful, but did nothing with her powers because she was hook’s girl. If she had the sense to give up her powers, hook might have broken up with her, as the price of losing her magic i guess maybe he only wanted her because of her powers, but she woukd become an ordinary person.
Because she didnt so this, because she didnt let the hat suck out her powers, she turned to darkness. Because Power currupts, weather its light or dark power, it currupts. Gold was hoping she would choose not to have power. As the true hero he thought she was.
He created a savior. Hook distroyed the savior. Good thing he had a back up plan for a savior. Regina.
[adrotate group="5"]Wow. Ok. I’ll post this and then I’ll get off this thread for good.
This seems to be directed right at me. I can’t stress enough that I am not a CS shipper. I am not a shipper period. This thread has gone off topic for sure. But as you pointed out, I think it’s because the show is off the air at the moment. I am not trying to persuade anyone. I simply was talking about the Savior’s actions as it relates to her character and her current status with Hook (whom she said she loves multiple times now), which was brought up by someone else. Once again, not trying to start a ship war at all. I am not praising CS, I am not arguing against SF. I am not persuading people that their ship is wrong. I literally could care less about the ships. That’s why I felt comfortable posting in this thread, even if at times, it got a little off topic. But now, I absolutely DO NOT feel comfortable posting here and likely never will again. There are clearly some sour grapes still in this thread, so much so that even though I clearly do not support either ship, and have said this multiple times, and have never told people they were wrong or tried to put down SF, I am getting called out for persuading people that they are wrong and that CS is the best. If anything, I miss Neal. I think that Emma’s relationship with him was better for the show. And yet, I’m getting called out for attempting to start shipping fighting, even though I’ve never said one is better than the other. Because again, I don’t care. I comment based on what I see on the show. I see that Emma claims she loves Hook now, so based on how the writers are writing the character, I was making a comment about what I feel would be heroic actions for The Savior. How that prompted a shipping lecture and a warning, I have no clue.
Also, I never called anyone’s intellect into question. I was just curious as to the reasons why people still watched the show if they were that upset with it. I think this was a pretty unnecessary attack here.
What I am guilty of is continuing topics in this thread that don’t directly pertain to SF. So from now on, if I have something to say, I will not post it here. It just seemed everyone was posting stuff here that was a little off topic so I didn’t think it was a big deal since the show was on hiatus. But consider me off this thread for good as I no longer feel welcome anymore.
We are going to move on now. This matter will be dealt with privately.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Emma lost her savior status the moment she kissed hook. Untill then she was a savior. She saved everyone from cora, she saved the town from the diamond she saved Regina from the wraith, hooks ship from the mermaids etc. But the moment she kissed hook, all she became was a whiner. Im the savior! I never get a day off! Meanwhile, Regina saved everyone. Emma was useless. Rumple saved everyone. Emma was useless. Regina saved everyone again and again, and Emma was nothing but a whining toddler. That is why Rumple was so disappointed when she did not choose to send her powers to the hat. She was very powerful, but did nothing with her powers because she was hook’s girl. If she had the sense to give up her powers, hook might have broken up with her, as the price of losing her magic i guess maybe he only wanted her because of her powers, but she woukd become an ordinary person. Because she didnt so this, because she didnt let the hat suck out her powers, she turned to darkness. Because Power currupts, weather its light or dark power, it currupts. Gold was hoping she would choose not to have power. As the true hero he thought she was. He created a savior. Hook distroyed the savior. Good thing he had a back up plan for a savior. Regina.
I don’t think that Emma lost her savior status in 3A. Yes the kiss was OOC as well as Neal making a contenst with Hook in 307 while their son is in danger. However, even though Emma didn’t directly defeated Pan, she was the one who led everyone, without her none of the others would have succeeded.
I think the season that really did a disservice to Emma’s savior status is 3B, and not just because of Hook, but because of Regina as well. They made such a huge deal about Emma being the only one who can defeat Zelena, they sacrificed Charming and casted the dark curse only for her to do absolutely nothing, it was all given to Regina in the most rushed and ridiculous way, she could have done that in the EF, no curse needed. Of course the manipulative writing makes sure to inform us that “Emma defeated Pan, Emma defeated Zelena” as Hook states in 322. You can’t argue that, it was in the script. Ultimately, the writer’s main goal in 3B was 1) Pair Emma with Hook. 2) Redeem Regina. Both goals did a disservice to all of the characters and my reason to hate this season so much.
Season 4 didn’t make Emma’s savior status so small compared to season 3B because she did try to help others get their “Happy Ending” (by others I mean Elsa because Ratings and Regina because main characters don’t deal with consequences for things they did. No Marian, you don’t get a “Happy Ending”, you’re not important enough. All you get is hate for being alive).
Of course, Regina saved the town 10 +- times, but it is conveniently forgotten in 502 because of plot.
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Yes, there are many things they can do but they dont want to. About Neal, yeah, see there is already a Neal on the show that is Snowing Son, the only way MRj could appear as Neal would be in flashback, which wont happen, so any full time job, doesnt even requires MRJ, they can bring young Bae and let Rumple and Belle raise him, and he would not have memories, so no problem to Cs and he could bond with Henry paralleling S3B when he didnt remenber Neal, so yeah, if they want to bring Bae, they dont even need MRJ unless for one small scene to de age him, but u see, that would have to be done on this arc, not in any other arc, but that wont happen, and even tho this option is not from my like, if would mean people would leave MRJ in peace and stop wishing that he doesnt get other jobs, so that he can return to ouat and at same time would give Bae another chance, so do it.
I am not wishing that MRJ would not get other work. I was hoping he was going to be on something interesting, that show doesn’t sound good to me and it is on NBC which means it will be overly violent. I am allowed to feel that way. I even said that i think, most likely, he will not be back, but i have no desire to see a young Bae as a regular on this show. Neal told Rumpel specifically that he didn’t want to be turned back into a child, so i hope they don’t do something like that.
My entire point though, is that if the stars aligned and MRJ wanted and could be on the show, he could be written back into the show quite easily. I actually think that most likely “Neal’s Warning” is just the name of a song and does not mean Neal will be on the show. I think there is very little chance it is baby Neal because he is not a character and will be happily safe off screen like he was in Camelot.
Baelfire coming back would actually be an interesting idea. Rumple gets a second chance not to repeat the mistakes he made with Bae before but you also get the heartwrenching element where Henry gets his dad back but Bae has no clue who he is.
3B was terrible for both Emma and Regina in terms of characterisation as their arcs were all about their ships. Regina has managed to pull it back with OQ as Robin is more an accessory that Regina wears on her arm rather than an actual character but Hook has been and continues to be bad for Emma’s character. If the show was trying to make a commentary about how even “strong” women can end up unwittingly in unhealthy relationships and they actually had Emma realise this, then CS would’ve actually been a clever idea. However that is not what they are doing, instead CS is being presented as this straight-up romance and it is so very wrong. Hook has not changed one iota for the better, his motives are not selfless but selfish, he helps not because it is the right thing to do but because helping puts him in favour with Emma which means she is more receptive of his advances so Hook benefits in terms of sexual gratification. His comment about returning Milah to Rumple “soiled” was disgusting. That can’t be blamed on being the dark one as Rumple was the dark one for years and never viewed women in such disregard.
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You can’t. But don’t worry about it. I’ll only delete it if you *really* want me to.
I don’t know that Emma has lost her Savior status. The mythic threads are still there (Katabasis, for example) but it’s more that her Savior status has been eclipsed by her girlfriend status. That’s really the biggest issue for me: not that she has found a new boyfriend (though, obviously, I loathe her current relationship) but that her status as girlfriend overshadows all over aspects of her life: mother, friend, daughter, magic weilder…ect
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